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    Finland doesn't count ltc facility deaths.... lol just like i said shouldnt count... and they only count deaths to covid that are positives and die from a complication of covid.... a majority of swedens deaths came from ltc

    Remember when your argument saying ltc deaths should be counted... why doesn't finland believe you?
    OK, let's take out ltc deaths from Sweden.

    The Swedish Public Health Agency told the BBC that 48.9% of deaths were care home residents up to and including 14 May.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52704836

    Let's round it up to 50%. That'll take Sweden's deaths per million down to 225.

    Finland's is 58.

    Why is Sweden's number so much higher?

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    OK, let's take out ltc deaths from Sweden.

    The Swedish Public Health Agency told the BBC that 48.9% of deaths were care home residents up to and including 14 May.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52704836

    Let's round it up to 50%. That'll take Sweden's deaths per million down to 225.

    Finland's is 58.

    Why is Sweden's number so much higher?
    It doesnt work that way, Mr Kansas. You cant just divide by 2. Lol at you. They collect the death stats completely different.

    But what you are saying is no lockdown sweden is far and away better than lockdown usa and UK and Spain and Italy and Belgium..... lol you

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    It doesnt work that way, Mr Kansas. You cant just divide by 2. Lol at you. They collect the death stats completely different.
    I took out all the deaths you were whining about. Where would you like to move your goalpost to next?

    Let me know.

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    It doesnt work that way, Mr Kansas. You cant just divide by 2. Lol at you. They collect the death stats completely different.

    But what you are saying is no lockdown sweden is far and away better than lockdown usa and UK and Spain and Italy and Belgium..... lol you

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    You're changing the subject again. You lost. lol science

    You got beat with your own argument.

    Let me know when you've moved the goalpost again, OK?

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    You're changing the subject again. You lost. lol science

    You got beat with your own argument.

    Let me know when you've moved the goalpost again, OK?
    You tried to just divide deaths by 2. Lol math wizard

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    You tried to just divide deaths by 2. Lol math wizard
    I took out more than what Sweden said was it's percentage of deaths in LTCs. If you'd like me to use 48.9% I can. It doesn't get better for you.

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    I took out more than what Sweden said was it's percentage of deaths in LTCs. If you'd like me to use 48.9% I can. It doesn't get better for you.
    Doesn't matter to me.... finland doesn't count those
    and they only count deaths to covid that are positives and die from a complication of covid.

    Seems like you've encountered countries who count covid death differently. That's problematic. And since finlands process is exponentially more strict than sweden, who didn't lock down, its almost like saying you are comparing apples to oranges... lol you

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    Doesn't matter to me.... finland doesn't count those
    That's why I took out Sweden's since they said exactly how many there were.

    you can't even follow your own argument. You're so lost.

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    Doesn't matter to me.... finland doesn't count those
    and they only count deaths to covid that are positives and die from a complication of covid.

    Seems like you've encountered countries who count covid death differently. That's problematic. And since finlands process is exponentially more strict than sweden, who didn't lock down, its almost like saying you are comparing apples to oranges... lol you

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    Not even close. You asked why 2 countries, that count covid deaths 2 completely different ways, have different death rates. I now see why you don't understand the math

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    Not even close. You asked why 2 countries, that count covid deaths 2 completely different ways, have different death rates. I now see why you don't understand the math
    I took from Sweden's total the same category of deaths you say Finland doesn't count.

    And you still can't understand it.

    lol you don't understand that math. You lose.

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    I took from Sweden's total the same category of deaths you say Finland doesn't count.

    And you still can't understand it.

    lol you don't understand that math. You lose.
    Do you not understand that even if you take out those people, finland has a much more strict requirement to attribute to a covid death than sweden..... you cannot compare the death rates. But again you're losing.

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    Do you not understand that even if you take out those people, finland has a much more strict requirement to attribute to a covid death than sweden.....
    Tell me where you want to move the goalpost next.

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    Tell me where you want to move the goalpost next.
    There's no goalpost to move. You tried to be smart. Asked why the deat rates are higher in sweden. And the answer is sweden does not tabulate covid deaths the way finland does. I win

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    There's no goalpost to move. You tried to be smart. Asked why the deat rates are higher in sweden. And the answer is sweden does not tabulate covid deaths the way finland does. I win
    I took out the deaths for Sweden that you say Finland doesn't count -- i.e, your goalpost -- and Sweden is still like 5 times worse.

    Where do you want to move the goalpost next?

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    I took out the deaths for Sweden that you say Finland doesn't count -- i.e, your goalpost -- and Sweden is still like 5 times worse.

    Where do you want to move the goalpost next?
    You must not understand that finland doesn't count covid deaths like sweden. In addition to not counting nursing homes, which you still are avoiding...
    Finland requires you to test positive for covid AND die from complications of covid to be counted as a death.

    So when you ask the same question over and over, the answer is the same. You cannot compare death rates based on two different methods of counting.

    I win again

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    You must not understand that finland doesn't count covid deaths like sweden. In addition to not counting nursing homes, which you still are avoiding...
    Finland requires you to test positive for covid AND die from complications of covid to be counted as a death.
    So that's where you want to move the goalpost.

    You really think that will even things out?

    lol

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    OK, let's take out ltc deaths from Sweden.

    The Swedish Public Health Agency told the BBC that 48.9% of deaths were care home residents up to and including 14 May.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52704836

    Let's round it up to 50%. That'll take Sweden's deaths per million down to 225.

    Finland's is 58.

    Why is Sweden's number so much higher?
    Sweden is lower than Colorado. NY is 1500+ per 1M. Why is NY so much higher than Sweden?

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    You must not understand that finland doesn't count covid deaths like sweden. In addition to not counting nursing homes, which you still are avoiding...
    Finland requires you to test positive for covid AND die from complications of covid to be counted as a death.

    So when you ask the same question over and over, the answer is the same. You cannot compare death rates based on two different methods of counting.

    I win again
    I tried to explain this to them weeks ago but they weren't having it. Grade school science and stats experts here.

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    Sweden is lower than Colorado. NY is 1500+ per 1M. Why is NY so much higher than Sweden?
    you're changing the subject as fast as possible too

    I'm really on to something here.

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    I tried to explain this to them weeks ago but they weren't having it. Grade school science and stats experts here.
    Great, what do you think the REAL numbers are?

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    you're changing the subject as fast as possible too

    I'm really on to something here.
    Why is one area that locked down higher than an area that didn't? You cherry picked a country to compare Sweden to but conveniently ignore that there are plenty similar sized regions with much higher ratios who actually did lock down.

    You are on to something, a narrative. I just on it.

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    Why is one area that locked down higher than an area that didn't? You cherry picked a country to compare Sweden to but conveniently ignore that there are plenty similar sized regions with much higher ratios who actually did lock down.
    We've been talking about the country right next door.

    I also brought up the one on its other side and the one about a mile across a body of water away.

    We can stick with Finland though, if you're not afraid.

    Why are Finland's numbers so much lower?

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