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    LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Kentucky’s “stand your ground” law allows its residents to use deadly force against intruders they believe are breaking into their home.

    So why is Kenneth Walker charged with attempted murder for allegedly shooting a Louisville police sergeant March 13 who forced his way with two other officers into Breonna Taylor’s apartment while serving a "no-knock" warrant?

    When the officers returned fire, Taylor, an ER technician and former Louisville EMT who was unarmed, was struck at least eight times and died on her hallway floor.

    Commonwealth’s Attorney Tom Wine wouldn't discuss Walker's pending prosecution. But Wine told The Courier Journal in an email that the "stand your ground" statute "is central in any determination of how to proceed.”

    Enacted in 2006, the law says it doesn’t apply to force used against police officers — but only if police identify themselves "in accordance with any applicable law."
    https://news.yahoo.com/no-knock-sear...144300844.html

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    ... a deeply ill, dysfunctional, uncivilized, shoot-em-up brutal hole of a country.

    Azar implication: the pandemic (for white people) isn't really that bad (we don't give a about non-white C19 bodies)

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    incompatible laws tbh...terrible result

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    incompatible laws tbh...terrible result
    Sad-but-true.

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    Yeah, we should get rid of the no knock searches.

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    Yeah, we should get rid of the no knock searches.
    they are usually limited to cir stances where there exists a reasonable possibility that evidence will be destroyed (ie flushing drugs down the toilet) or if a knock and announce approach would endanger cops (ie about to raid a home where there are believed to be multiple armed suspects)

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    Holy moly. Agreement.

    Now... which do we get rid of? Police overreach, or "blast away" gun laws?

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    Yeah, we should get rid of the no knock searches.
    Alrighty then. There is a take.

    Keep the "blast away" self defense gun laws. Stop the police from barging in.

    I would point out, as a devils advocate, the shooting in the OP would not have happened if the warrant had bee on the right address.

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    they are usually limited to cir stances where there exists a reasonable possibility that evidence will be destroyed (ie flushing drugs down the toilet) or if a knock and announce approach would endanger cops (ie about to raid a home where there are believed to be multiple armed suspects)
    Sixty percent of the time, the searches found no illegal drugs or other contraband, as was in the case of the police raid on Taylor's apartment at 3003 Springfield Drive.
    There really isn't much to debate on this one. Nathan summed it up perfectly.

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    There really isn't much to debate on this one. Nathan summed it up perfectly.
    i dont necessarily disagree with what he was saying, i was just providing what the rationale to no-knock searches are

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    Holy moly. Agreement.

    Now... which do we get rid of? Police overreach, or "blast away" gun laws?
    The former.

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    There really isn't much to debate on this one. Nathan summed it up perfectly.
    Well, . Hold the HTML coding.

    There is bi-partisan support for ending the practice. Color me shocked.

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    If the residence has illegal activities like drugs and such that would result in a warrant for a no-knock search, I don't think "stand your ground" matters. The cops aren't going in expecting people to be playing Twister. Stand all you want, you'll still get shot. So stand your ground should not apply if there is indeed illegal activity but if not, the cops are taking their lives into their own hands by recklessly barging into people's homes.

    Black woman in Dallas gets shot through her window for standing her ground, suddenly it's a cop problem. It's both. The black woman wasn't doing anything wrong but to a cop there's really no difference until it's established. This is why discretion is important. Not everything is going to be easy.

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