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    The Good Doctor Rummpd's Avatar
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    Still Sporting Ben Davis Allan Rowe vs Wade's Avatar
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    ugh kobe fluffing

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    “What has LeBron did to build up any organization from the ground?" Pierce said. "I’m talking about these players, top-5 players. Bill Russell built the organization of Boston, Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Tim Duncan, Kobe, Bird. These guys are all-time top 10 players who helped build their organization or continued the tradition.”

    Actually a Good point..

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    NostraSpurMus phxspurfan's Avatar
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    Larry Johnson is certainly top 5

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    It never ceases to amaze me how overrated Kobe is by certain people.

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Kobe was better than Jordan tho

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    Fellow SF's from the same Era are always taking shots at Lebron. This is what happens when you don't dominate your compe ion.

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    Kobe was better than Jordan tho
    If Jordan played with Shaq.. What's he got? 12 Rings..

    Jordan kicked Shaq's ass in 96.. And that was prime Penny..

    But oh yeah they did get Jordan in 95, after 2 years trying to hit a curve ball..

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    Its really not that far fetched to not have him in your top 5 tbh

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    coffee's for closers FrostKing's Avatar
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    Its really not that far fetched to not have him in your top 5 tbh
    Most people over the age of 35, do not

    Otherwise you have to put the Curry's and Durant's in your Top 15. Screw that.

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    Because I choose to. Neo.'s Avatar
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    Most people over the age of 35, do not

    Otherwise you have to put the Curry's and Durant's in your Top 15. Screw that.
    most people over the age of 70 think wilt, oscar, west and russell > mike

    guess that means mike aint anywhere near the goat

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    Pierce was well on his way to singlehandedly beating the '12 Heatles until the refs took over

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    Can you imagine if Jordan has played with Duncan in 1999? No logical way it would have ever happened but that would have been a historically good combo.

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    If Jordan played with Shaq.. What's he got? 12 Rings..

    Jordan kicked Shaq's ass in 96.. And that was prime Penny..

    But oh yeah they did get Jordan in 95, after 2 years trying to hit a curve ball..
    Well to be fair they lost Horace Grant
    And Jordan didn't kick Shaq's ass, 2 different poitions smh

    As for Shaq... yes he was the Finals MVP but it was actually Kobe who was the 1A in the West playoffs ; Kobe was their best player against San Antonio, Portland, Sacramento, Phoenix etc
    Last edited by lefty; 05-21-2020 at 09:33 AM.

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    Most people over the age of 35, do not
    LOL that's just plain wrong
    A lot of people who grew up watching Jordan have Lebron in their top 3
    Some of them even have them as their GOAT

    It's all personal preference at the end of the day but let's not assume there is an automatic generational bias and that only "kids" think James is the goat

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    He said that Kobe built up the Lakers.

    Bull . He killed that poor franchise. I thought Pierce got stabbed in the neck and face, not in the brain.

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    Kobe was better than Jordan tho
    Wrong. No where near as efficent if you look at career FG%. Kobe was king of really bad and contested shots.

    He is a hair better than Lebronze though. Sorry, not sorry.

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    And maybe Wilt is the GOAT. We are not old enough to really know and can only fairly judge what we have seen. Youtube clips aren't enough to objectively view and make a proper assesment.

    Sorry to Nick Wright but his GOAT assesment is worthless to me. His basketball opinion and 5 dollars can get him a hot cup of coffee just about anywhere.

    most people over the age of 70 think wilt, oscar, west and russell > mike

    guess that means mike aint anywhere near the goat
    Last edited by Dirks_Finale; 05-21-2020 at 01:22 PM.

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    LOL that's just plain wrong
    A lot of people who grew up watching Jordan have Lebron in their top 3
    Some of them even have them as their GOAT

    It's all personal preference at the end of the day but let's not assume there is an automatic generational bias and that only "kids" think James is the goat

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    Tim would have asked to have been traded, first week. He did not like Jordan.

    Can you imagine if Jordan has played with Duncan in 1999? No logical way it would have ever happened but that would have been a historically good combo.

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    I think even his biggest critics have him top 10. I think he is like 5-7 somewhere in there.

    The argument for him will be longevity (big overall numbers) and sustaining final's appearances.

    And if we make him the GOAT based on that then we will most certainly have to do the same for Durbeta who will ultimately outscore Lebron and maybe have a bunch of other final's appearanes as he continues to build superteams just like Lebron has.

    So unless Durbeta finally grows some hair on his chest, we have to ask ourselves is this the best criteria for judging greatness

    Its really not that far fetched to not have him in your top 5 tbh

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    Pierce also said that he was better shooter than Klay Thompson

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    “What has LeBron did to build up any organization from the ground?" Pierce said. "I’m talking about these players, top-5 players. Bill Russell built the organization of Boston, Kareem, Magic, Jordan, Tim Duncan, Kobe, Bird. These guys are all-time top 10 players who helped build their organization or continued the tradition.”

    Actually a Good point..
    Actually, that's a dumbass point. Even when he lost to a super team (Dubs with KD) he was still clearly the best in those series.

    Jordan couldn't beat a super team either (80s Celtics). Matter of fact he didn't win until Bird's back went out and Showtime broke up. But MJ, not Bron is in his top 5? FOH son. Both of you.

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    It never ceases to amaze me how overrated Kobe is by certain people.
    Pierce is a Celtic though. He could have signed with the Lakers after Wizards kicked him to the curb. Instead? He signed with the Clipps.

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    Kobe was better than Jordan tho
    This. Wait:



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