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    Bernie Sanders set his sights on the service industry this week when he published a video promoting a $15 minimum wage for “tipped workers” like waiters and waitresses: A drastic increase from the current level of $2.13.

    “Let’s be clear: 70% of tipped workers are women. We will not have equal pay for equal work until we increase the $2.13 sub-minimum wage – which has not gone up in 30 years – to $15 an hour and adopt one fair wage. We must end the crisis of starvation wages in America,” posted Sanders on Twitter.

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    Have your romantical overtures to waitresses been rebutted?

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    Good. You can feel better about stiffing your server.

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    Good.

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    Have your romantical overtures to waitresses been rebutted?
    That why you resort to stalking playgrounds and non stop perversions of teacher pedophiles sexing young children?

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    Bernie Sanders set his sights on the service industry this week when he published a video promoting a $15 minimum wage for “tipped workers” like waiters and waitresses: A drastic increase from the current level of $2.13.

    “Let’s be clear: 70% of tipped workers are women. We will not have equal pay for equal work until we increase the $2.13 sub-minimum wage – which has not gone up in 30 years – to $15 an hour and adopt one fair wage. We must end the crisis of starvation wages in America,” posted Sanders on Twitter.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/SenSander...rom-2-to-15%2F

    Have you returned the 2k $$$. you received?

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    I'm ok with it. Raise price of food, pay workers a decent wage and tips not required or expected. This works in other countries just fine. They'll have lower turnover rate and save money on training, service will improve and they won't have to fight for prime busy hours to get paid while there's no waitstaff during off peak hours.

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    I would think there are some restaurants that at even with $2 hour waiter wage they still make around $20. Dunno for sure tho

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    I'm ok with it. Raise price of food, pay workers a decent wage and tips not required or expected. This works in other countries just fine. They'll have lower turnover rate and save money on training, service will improve and they won't have to fight for prime busy hours to get paid while there's no waitstaff during off peak hours.
    yep

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    I would think there are some restaurants that at even with $2 hour waiter wage they still make around $20. Dunno for sure tho
    nothing would stop people from still tipping some change here and there, but its pretty ty to feel compelled to tip ~15% or so just because they did their job. if they just raised prices and i knew that the waiters were being paid decently, id probably still tip some if they did a good job, but it shouldnt be a majority of their income tbh

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    I'm ok with it. Raise price of food, pay workers a decent wage and tips not required or expected. This works in other countries just fine. They'll have lower turnover rate and save money on training, service will improve and they won't have to fight for prime busy hours to get paid while there's no waitstaff during off peak hours.
    in before "a waitress job is not a real job!"

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    Good. You can feel better about stiffing your server.
    I know you're just sperm shielding; but you're on to something, derp.

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    I'm ok with it. Raise price of food, pay workers a decent wage and tips not required or expected. This works in other countries just fine. They'll have lower turnover rate and save money on training, service will improve and they won't have to fight for prime busy hours to get paid while there's no waitstaff during off peak hours.
    So I won't be going to the restaurant, then

    in before "a waitress job is not a real job!"

    It's a real job if you're 22 and under. Once you have your bachelor's it's a little pathetic.

    nothing would stop people from still tipping some change here and there, but its pretty ty to feel compelled to tip ~15% or so just because they did their job. if they just raised prices and i knew that the waiters were being paid decently, id probably still tip some if they did a good job, but it shouldnt be a majority of their income tbh
    If they raised prices as a customer I wouldn't want to come out worse than before, so yeah the tip would have to naturally come down or not at all.

    A tip is a privilege not a right, like as you said just doing your job at an average pace shouldn't be heavily rewarded, and the problem with raising prices and doing away with tips is that it rewards the ty rude and argumentative type of servers that deserve no tips even if their wage is $2.13.

    A lot of waiters/waitress's will hate the out of that if it results in no tipping. if they cant' clear $50 an hour now in a decent restaurant in SA they are doing something wrong.

    $50 an hour? lol maybe at a fine dining place on the riverwalk.

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    A lot of waiters/waitress's will hate the out of that if it results in no tipping. if they cant' clear $50 an hour now in a decent restaurant in SA they are doing something wrong.

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    It's a real job if you're 22 and under. Once you have your bachelor's it's a little pathetic.
    With automation and everything else going on, it's one decent job you can at least fall back to. But it has to have at the very least a livable wage.

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    With automation and everything else going on, it's one decent job you can at least fall back to. But it has to have at the very least a livable wage.
    Does it? Isn't that the point of taxing the rich? To give back to the poor?

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    This would result in more income they would have to claim
    And could result with people calling in sick because they would make as much with working less hours because of taxes

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    With automation and everything else going on, it's one decent job you can at least fall back to. But it has to have at the very least a livable wage.
    No, it doesn't. It's meant to be extra income, for buying wants like new shoes, clothes, perfumes, cosmetics, jewelry, other wants like that. It an early-career job intended for youth to supplement what their parents are doing for them, and/or the universities and governments in the case of college.

    It's not meant to cover tuition, rent, a new car, or medical bills. Those are going to be your jobs with "bachelor's degree" as a general requirement.

    This would result in more income they would have to claim
    And could result with people calling in sick because they would make as much with working less hours because of taxes
    That's stupid. Who in their right mind would rather make $150K instead of $400K just because they'd be in a lower tax bracket? You do understand that the more you make the more you take home, right? Doesn't matter what the tax rate is, as long as it's lower than 100% (inclusive of SS/Medicare taxes).

    Plenty of older people do this job and the like. Not everyone can be a manager or executive.
    Well then hope their husband has a real career, and/or hope they don't have kids.

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    No, it doesn't. It's meant to be extra income, for buying wants like new shoes, clothes, perfumes, cosmetics, jewelry, other wants like that. It an early-career job intended for youth to supplement what their parents are doing for them, and/or the universities and governments in the case of college.

    It's not meant to cover tuition, rent, a new car, or medical bills.
    Plenty of older people do this job and the like. Not everyone can be a manager or executive.

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    My position on this is the same as my position on federal minimum wage of $15.

    But in cities like Seattle, paying servers $15 is working just fine

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    My position on this is the same as my position on federal minimum wage of $15.

    But in cities like Seattle, paying servers $15 is working just fine
    Seattle is expensive but it's far from the most expensive city. Zero state income taxes in Seattle, and property taxes per dollar value is also below average. Youth in Seattle have it made. Make $15 with zero work experience or specific skills, live in a co-ed room share house/apartment within walking distance (yes, they exist on Facebook and Craigslist; usually $500 for a private room with a shared bath, or $250-300 for a shared room and a bunk on a bunk bed) of work. Save and pile up that money and still have plenty to spend on entertainment. Of course this was pre covid when 10 people sharing a 5 bed 2.5 bath house was not an issue

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    I know a donut business that when they got a 2 hour raise with min wage
    It worked ok for 2 weeks
    Then their employees figured out if they called in sick once a week they get the same money

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    I know a donut business that when they got a 2 hour raise with min wage
    It worked ok for 2 weeks
    Then their employees figured out if they called in sick once a week they get the same money
    I just bet this happened.

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    My position on this is the same as my position on federal minimum wage of $15.

    But in cities like Seattle, paying servers $15 is working just fine
    Right again, Sadbert.


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    $2 an hour employees getting no benefits no vacation time no sick time they call in sick they get fired

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