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    What are sanctuary cities? Cause I know personally of a friend who had ice come to their house and deport their dad. He had to dye his hair and other BS just to get back. This was in 2012
    It's certainly no guarantee if you're a mojado, but possibly better than having the police outright deport him for a traffic stop.

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    I think we're going to be going in circles here, now. I stated why I would "throw away" my vote for a third party. If Trump has you that scared, then it's your right to vote for Joe.

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    What's with all of the Tom Cotton mentions? He's a Republican senator from Arkansas so I just assume he's a piece of sanctimonious bible thumping fascist, but is there a story about him or something?
    He’s been strategically positioning himself as “Trump, but smart” for a couple years now, and with the protests he’s pushed it up a few more notches. Got a bunch of attention for a NYT op-ed that worked perfectly for him.

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    It's certainly no guarantee if you're a mojado, but possibly better than having the police outright deport him for a traffic stop.
    I don't think the police deport people here. ICE does detentions throuogh freeaways, and they used to stop buses in the city, but that was long ago, and before I was born.

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    I don't think the police deport people here. ICE does detentions throuogh freeaways, and they used to stop buses in the city, but that was long ago, and before I was born.
    They don't have to deport, they have to report arrests to ICE, so ICE has a chance to call back and tell them to hold them longer until they can deport them.

    That's what sanctuary cities don't do.

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    He’s been strategically positioning himself as “Trump, but smart” for a couple years now, and with the protests he’s pushed it up a few more notches. Got a bunch of attention for a NYT op-ed that worked perfectly for him.
    Deplorables are intensely su ious of smart...

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    it's literally a repeat of 2004 after the DNC sabotaged Howard Dean's campaign once he got a little too far left for their looking

    "I know John Kerry is the most uninteresting eggheaded centrist corporate shill there is to offer, BUT YOU NEED TO VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF GWB = DOOMSDAY!!!"


    NO NO NO, he killed his own campaign for yelling “YEAAAHHH” weird. That’s 100% why! No DNC meddling! He just yelled funny and nobody forgives that!

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    Deplorables are intensely su ious of smart...
    Smart from New York, yes. That’s when you need a dip like Trump.

    Smart from Arkansas makes them all feel smart.

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    NO NO NO, he killed his own campaign for yelling “YEAAAHHH” weird. That’s 100% why! No DNC meddling! He just yelled funny and nobody forgives that!
    I remember being a 14 year old and %100 believing this

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    Smart from New York, yes. That’s when you need a dip like Trump.

    Smart from Arkansas makes them all feel smart.
    touche

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    The biggest difference between GWB and Trump to me is that I understand why people liked GWB - at a personal level he seems likeable (i.e., the goofy he did standing next to Mic e Obama during that service). I don't understand why people like a bag billionaire who's always angry, serious and insecure. Usually s bag Republicans get elected because they're someone you "want to have a beer with." It'd be fun to have a beer with GWB, but there's absolutely nothing that makes me think Trump is someone you want to have a beer with.

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    The biggest difference between GWB and Trump to me is that I understand why people liked GWB - at a personal level he seems likeable (i.e., the goofy he did standing next to Mic e Obama during that service). I don't understand why people like a bag billionaire who's always angry, serious and insecure. Usually s bag Republicans get elected because they're someone you "want to have a beer with." It'd be fun to have a beer with GWB, but there's absolutely nothing that makes me think Trump is someone you want to have a beer with.
    Don't forget this guy also set the English language back about half a century... I don't think we had such a terrible communicator in my lifetime.

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    Don't forget this guy also set the English language back about half a century... I don't think we had such a terrible communicator in my lifetime.
    I honestly don't know whether you're talking about W or Trump here.

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    You're missing the point where Obama built these cages.
    I don't remember his overcrowding them.


    But yes, the Yemen war that started under Obama, that no one really cared about until 2017
    Meh, Trump took det extra step to grease the skids for MBS.

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    You'd be saying this regardless of who the Dem nominee was. It's a daily affirmation to distract yourself from the fact that your "side" got hijacked by a cult of racist morons, and you will have to continue to cater to those people to have any chance of staying in power.

    People who ran your party twelve years ago are all jumping ship. But sure, you guys are sailing smooth.
    Yeah it's true Dubya, Romney and the like are on board with Biden reports say.

    and you're happy to have them

    lol Party of change

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    Bush's biggest mistake really was surrounding himself with s bags and listening to them. I have more sympathy for that than Trump surrounding himself with sychophants and getting rid of any dissenting opinons.

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    Yeah it's true Dubya, Romney and the like are on board with Biden reports say.

    and you're happy to have them

    lol Party of change
    Democrats celebrating GWB, Romney, and Mattis as heroes.

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    2008 Message: "Hope and change"

    2020 Message: "The people don't really want a revolution, just a milquetoast moderate who can beat Trump and then check into a memory care center"

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    I honestly don't know whether you're talking about W or Trump here.
    Trump, hands down... like not even close.

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    Yeah it's true Dubya, Romney and the like are on board with Biden reports say.

    and you're happy to have them

    lol Party of change
    Are you happy with the Trump presidency right now?

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    2008 Message: "Hope and change"

    2020 Message: "The people don't really want a revolution, just a milquetoast moderate who can beat Trump and then check into a memory care center"
    Yes, I think most of them rather liked how things were before Trump.

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    Democrats celebrating GWB, Romney, and Mattis as heroes.
    You'd rather be on the side that's losing every respected leader they've had in modern times? To each his own I guess.

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    Yes, I think most of them rather liked how things were before Trump.
    The rust belt Dems who voted Obama/Obama/Trump clearly didn't.

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    Yeah it's true Dubya, Romney and the like are on board with Biden reports say.

    and you're happy to have them

    lol Party of change
    You can spin it however you want, the fact is your "side" controlled every branch of the government 3 years ago and is in danger of losing control because they couldn't stop a racist TV celebrity from hijacking the party.

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    You'd rather be on the side that's losing every respected leader they've had in modern times? To each his own I guess.
    I'd rather be on the side that gets its agenda done by any means necessary, even if it means alienating former leaders in their party. This mindset is the problem Democrats have, they don't want to be the party of universal healthcare because it might make Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp upset.

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