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    Oh, and art and literature can't "be inferior" vs. one another. Art and literature's worth is a subjective value judgment. Artistic "value" isn't quantifiable. And history is never the full truth. Written by the winners.

    I also resist the idea that European Culture is monolithic. Europeans warred for centuries due to cultural differences, and many oppressed European tribes of antiquity, like Germanic tribes who Romans basically considered blond monkeys, also wanted to "burn down" Rome's history and remake it in their image. These events are actually what plunged the world into the Dark Ages, since the Germanic hordes erased a load of knowledge with all the burning of libraries and such.

    And what prompted these invasions? The Germanic Tribes didn't feel represented when they were a Roman state (Germania). They were BLM of their day, in a sense. And no, I'm not suggesting BLM go Germanic tribe of the US, just illustrating how when a group feels underrepresented, they tend to backlash.
    I think most have an issue with the gender & race of the men being glorified but yes there is a time and place for having an honest debate on them and their accomplishments. Some of these individuals represented European powers which used New World riches to then manipulate or even battle my ancestors. But I try to focus on what "occurred on the field" so to say. Even when debating about Muhammad, I never bring up the virgins etc. Maybe it is an old fashioned viewpoint - "ya the Man was an alcoholic and womanized in his marriage but damn he did glorious things for his nation/people etc.". My great grandfather was an alcoholic that never missed a day of work. He was flawed but it stayed within the family.

    Growing up in the 90s, alot of facts today were considered conspiracies. You couldn't just jump online and be presented with sources. But are we better off as a nation with these truths? Has pulling back the curtain united us? I am looking at the big picture more in how it effects culture. America is already shallow on history and traditions. I think this will further fuel the obsession of glorifying celebrities/entertainers in absence of past heroes. I think this fate is destined for all multicultural nations. People want heroes that look and sound like them. It is not out of the possibility that down the line events such as atomic bombing of Japan are reevaluated.
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    yeah nobody ever talked about systemic racism until after 2016

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    They target the youth and elderly. And happily video tape themselves knowing they have privilege because this baby owned slaves or said the N-word

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    Dems having a hard time these days finding quality token negros.

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    Dems having a hard time these days finding quality token negros.
    You mean like Diamond and Silk

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    What's the context? Not a bad idea to temporarily cancel all of those for 6 months to get people back on their feet due to the virus.

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    What's the context? Not a bad idea to temporarily cancel all of those for 6 months to get people back on their feet due to the virus.
    What part of cancel did you not understand?

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    these people are ing insane. no wonder nadolph gravitates toward them


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    these people are ing insane. no wonder nadolph gravitates toward them

    shhh secret police special ops missions

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    Qhris is really excited by this violence.

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    Qhris is really excited by this violence.
    projection

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    Nope. I am not excited about police riots at all.

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    You have a to have a boring and lonely life to believe all that .

    No friends, chance of love, having self-worth, etc.

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    Nope. I am not excited about police riots at all.
    I doubt that. You enjoy tormenting others for your amusement. (troll accounts) Sadistic and always ready to watch a bit of ultra violence I bet.

    You love the rioting.

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    I doubt that. You enjoy tormenting others for your amusement. (troll accounts) Sadistic and always ready to watch a bit of ultra violence I bet.
    no, Alex

    You love the rioting.
    God no. Nothing could be worse for the causes of the protesters and nothing could be better for Trump. That's why he's going to be provoking violence for the next three months.

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    amazing

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