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    I also mentioned they were two of the worst candidates in an election ever. I sat that one out, didn't vote.
    Yea, you already mentioned that you never voted until it was time to vote for the super racist geriatric communist rapist neo con.

    Talk about mommy and daddy issues.

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    The claims of massive fraud are what they've always been, not backed by the evidence or reality. Evidence isn't doctored in gab, it's stuff that can hold up in court.
    The courts didn't do their job. Come to terms.

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    I've told you a million times that conservatism isn't all that popular, that losing the popular vote (which is largely the indicator of the popularity of where you stand) only makes it much harder to eventually win elections.
    That's just what you tell yourself. It's total denial. Six circles Joe didn't get the real votes. It's good that this election outed the scam if nothing else.

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    Arizona flipped this time and in the current trajectory, Texas is well on it's way as well.
    You will call steals flips all day long. No doubt about that. I've been all over AZ. It's a red state. I've been all over TX, it's a red state.
    They may not be as red as Idaho; but the underpinnings are there.
    But now people are waking up. Long term your side would've been better off holding off on the major cheating; because they alerted the masses to the scam.
    But frankly the people you cheer lead for don't care about that. Their get rich schemes don't hinge on your hopes and dreams at all.
    They'll always just make sure they give you a limp bizkit to chew on and you'll be happy.

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    Both parties need to reinvent themselves. Trump was a warning sign for democrats that you can't coast through elections. Picking Biden was an unnecessary risk, and it also exposed the lack of likeable candidates coming out.
    How dumb can you seriously be? Joe told you they had the greatest voter fraud network ever.
    You really think all those billions were getting behind a geriatric re rapist if it weren't so?
    I really think you have to be a willful shill.

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    lol denial hasn't really worked for you, not sure why you keep sticking to it, tbh...

    You're been cut deep by Dems everywhere you look, California, black president, popular vote, old Joe... sooner or later you're going to have to wake up and accept reality.

    You don't have to like it, but acknowledging what's around you is the first step.

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    Conservatives have a big decision to make in the short term, whether to galvanize behind Trump and risk becoming a permanent minority, or move back to the middle and become generally more appealing. In the long run though, the strategy of disenfranchising voters seems like a patch for a bigger popularity/policy problem.
    We've heard this dogma before. Post shill Bush we were hearing all about how Republicans would never win another election. And the media did a fair job of selling it in conjunction with the vote rigging to really make it seem like it could well be. And the changing demographics seemed to support this lie.

    But we come to find out that the people like prosperity and harmony over deceit and iden y politics and utter immorality. The increased Latino vote for Trump in TX and FL and the increased black vote for Trump in places like MI show that you don't get to bank on that permanently.

    Americans aren't doing the A or B game going forward; at least that's my hope. We fix the voting systems and change the standards (term limits, etc.) and live with the consequences. You should be for that; but you're not because you're that committed to the scam. Makes me wonder what your payout may be; but I may never get to know that.

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    We've heard this dogma before. Post shill Bush we were hearing all about how Republicans would never win another election. And the media did a fair job of selling it in conjunction with the vote rigging to really make it seem like it could well be. And the changing demographics seemed to support this lie.

    But we come to find out that the people like prosperity and harmony over deceit and iden y politics and utter immorality. The increased Latino vote for Trump in TX and FL and the increased black vote for Trump in places like MI show that you don't get to bank on that permanently.

    Americans aren't doing the A or B game going forward; at least that's my hope. We fix the voting systems and change the standards (term limits, etc.) and live with the consequences. You should be for that; but you're not because you're that committed to the scam. Makes me wonder what your payout may be; but I may never get to know that.
    lol nobody cares about your morals. This is the part that conservatives don't seem to get. In order to regain power you had to pick a guy that got married 3 times, was a playboy, cheated on his wife, was a career liberal, and ran on a liberal platform.

    This is the part conservatives will have to revisit at some point. They no longer hold any moral authority whatsoever and on top of that their social policies are older than the dinosaurs.

    Similarly, democrats need to stop pretending that the latino or black vote is automatic. There has to be more there than lip service.

    Like I said, both parties have structural problems they need to address. The saving grace for them is this is a two party system, so eventually one party is going to suck balls so badly that people will want to change, just for the sake of change.

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    lol nobody cares about your morals. This is the part that conservatives don't seem to get. In order to regain power you had to pick a guy that got married 3 times, was a playboy, cheated on his wife, was a career liberal, and ran on a liberal platform.
    It's pretty obvious that that grab the pussy gambit didn't work. It only was only fodder for Chumpettes to cry on end. So, nobody cares about your fake morals.

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    This is the part conservatives will have to revisit at some point. They no longer hold any moral authority whatsoever and on top of that their social policies are older than the dinosaurs.
    I wasn't arguing one side having more moral authority than the other. That's your spin.
    I made it clear that the election was rigged and that that is what must be fixed and then let the chips fall where they may.

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    The saving grace for them is this is a two party system, so eventually one party is going to suck balls so badly that people will want to change, just for the sake of change.
    There is no saving grace to the uni-party masquerading as a two party system. Fix the systems and more parties will rise. It's clearly designed to have a stranglehold on democracy. Fix voting systems in all its forms; and this includes the presidential debate. The Commission On Presidential Elections was exposed. There should be multiple parties on the official debate stage.

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    It's pretty obvious that that grab the pussy gambit didn't work. It only was only fodder for Chumpettes to cry on end. So, nobody cares about your fake morals.
    That's exactly the point. Neither did paying off a pornstar to cheat on his wife. That's the moment the conservative collective said " morals", and democrats realized that your average person is well past social conservatism.

    I wasn't arguing one side having more moral authority than the other. That's your spin.
    I made it clear that the election was rigged and that that is what must be fixed and then let the chips fall where they may.
    Yes you did. When you bring up one side having 'utter immorality', you're pointing straight to the other having any kind of moral authority. They do not, and more importantly, the vast majority of people no longer care.

    There is no saving grace to the uni-party masquerading as a two party system. Fix the systems and more parties will rise. It's clearly designed to have a stranglehold on democracy. Fix voting systems in all its forms; and this includes the presidential debate. The Commission On Presidential Elections was exposed. There should be multiple parties on the official debate stage.
    Not really. Our system was designed under the illusion of being multi-party, and we had more than a two party system in history, but it effectively meant giving power to one party, while the other two withered away. That's exactly what's going to happen with a broken up GOP or Dems.

    The system isn't broken. You simply cannot make the claim that the same system that elected Trump was working, and suddenly when he loses 4 years later, it's broken. That's not only disingenuous, it's the epitome of denial.

    What's broken are the ideas and priorities of both parties, thus why they're going to have to reinvent themselves to some degree. Biden, Pelosi, etc are the representation of the staleness of the democratic party. The GOP used Trump like a rag and there's clearly a power struggle right now, but their ideas have been generally unpopular for longer than Trump.

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    That's exactly the point. Neither did paying off a pornstar to cheat on his wife. That's the moment the conservative collective said " morals", and democrats realized that your average person is well past social conservatism.
    This is an utterly stupid road you're traveling down.
    There was no saint on the ballot that people chose Trump over.
    Your argument is full re .

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    Yes you did. When you bring up one side having 'utter immorality', you're pointing straight to the other having any kind of moral authority. They do not, and more importantly, the vast majority of people no longer care.
    I think that's a reach at best. Democrats being full-on corrupt doesn't make Republicans the "moral authority".

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    The system isn't broken. You simply cannot make the claim that the same system that elected Trump was working, and suddenly when he loses 4 years later, it's broken. That's not only disingenuous, it's the epitome of denial.longer than Trump.
    You are having to twist so many words to come with your bull . The cheating has taken place in every election by the swamp rats.
    Hillary cheated too. She just didn't do it well enough. The Democrats spent time figuring out how they could cheat harder rather than fix the country. And why did they do that? Because it works. People like you who dismiss it are not part of the solution; you're only a shill. That's all. You'll try to make it about Trump because that's what's important to you. You're fine with the corruption because you perceive that it benefits you. Now does me calling out your lack of morals make me a "moral authority"?

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    The GOP used Trump like a rag and there's clearly a power struggle right now, but their ideas have been generally unpopular for longer than Trump.
    They only validated why people overwhelmingly rejected them. They're Commiecrats in Republican clothing.
    You'll always want it to be about the petty drama, cos that's your game though. That's how Democrats win.
    Fixing the system is not an easy thing to do. I'm not saying it will happen. But at least I'm not a shill for it.

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    This is an utterly stupid road you're traveling down.
    There was no saint on the ballot that people chose Trump over.
    Your argument is full re .
    lmao, you didn't dispute a thing I said.

    You can pretend bible thumping evangelicals don't care about morals, but both you and I know they at least pretend they do. The problem is they realized Mormons like Romney or fake christian hypocrites like Cruz ain't winning a presidential election anymore.

    In other words, they needed somebody completely opposite of a "family values" candidate to win the presidency again. Heck, Pence was completely irrelevant in that ticket.

    That said, the same mantra applies to Democrats as well. They need to realize that you can't throw a terrible, unlikeable candidate like Shillary out there and expect to win.

    I think that's a reach at best. Democrats being full-on corrupt doesn't make Republicans the "moral authority".
    When you're calling only one side "immoral" (your words, not mine), you're automatically making the claim the other side has the moral high ground or moral authority. It's a completely false claim. Neither side can claim the moral high ground, and frankly, it's stupid anyways, as we now know it means nothing when it comes to elections.

    You are having to twist so many words to come with your bull . The cheating has taken place in every election by the swamp rats.
    Hillary cheated too. She just didn't do it well enough. The Democrats spent time figuring out how they could cheat harder rather than fix the country. And why did they do that? Because it works. People like you who dismiss it are not part of the solution; you're only a shill. That's all. You'll try to make it about Trump because that's what's important to you. You're fine with the corruption because you perceive that it benefits you. Now does me calling out your lack of morals make me a "moral authority"?
    lol, what word did I twist? I specifically pointed out to the fact that you didn't complain about the system or anything else when Trump was elected, and now the same system is suddenly broken when he lost.

    Calling me names only proves you don't want to talk about the subject, and rather hide in your hypocrisy. I'm not falling for that, this isn't about me, it's about you deflecting why your terrible candidate and former president lost an election.

    There's nothing to fix. America has the longer lasting representative democracy in the history of the world. And if there was one person that wanted to destroy it, it was your candidate.

    The reason you want to 'fix' it (aka: disenfranchise legal voters), is because you're a sore loser and your ideas no longer are appealing. It's you that need to change, not the 'system'.

    They only validated why people overwhelmingly rejected them. They're Commiecrats in Republican clothing.
    You'll always want it to be about the petty drama, cos that's your game though. That's how Democrats win.
    Fixing the system is not an easy thing to do. I'm not saying it will happen. But at least I'm not a shill for it.
    Trump ran on a liberal platform. Economic protectionism, cheap healthcare, the rich having to take a seat back.

    The gig was up as soon as Mitch used him to pass a taxcut for the rich and the pandemic exposed him to be a complete fraud.

    He ran on 'law and order' for re-election, coz he couldn't run on a liberal plan anymore, and lost by a solid chunk to ing sleepy joe.

    Democrats are far from panacea, and have a number of problems on their own, but you need to wake up and see what's going on around you.

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    lmao, you didn't dispute a thing I said.

    You can pretend bible thumping evangelicals don't care about morals, but both you and I know they at least pretend they do. The problem is they realized Mormons like Romney or fake christian hypocrites like Cruz ain't winning a presidential election anymore.

    In other words, they needed somebody completely opposite of a "family values" candidate to win the presidency again. Heck, Pence was completely irrelevant in that ticket.
    In other words you need a convenient stump point. People who voted for Trump were not voting against family values.

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    When you're calling only one side "immoral" (your words, not mine), you're automatically making the claim the other side has the moral high ground or moral authority. It's a completely false claim. Neither side can claim the moral high ground, and frankly, it's stupid anyways, as we now know it means nothing when it comes to elections.
    Except they're not. I never said one side was immoral and the other not.

    And the "moral high ground" is something you keep sticking on. If it makes you feel better, many Republicans helped to perpetrate the steal. It's doubtful it could've been accomplished without a significant amount of their help.

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    lol, what word did I twist? I specifically pointed out to the fact that you didn't complain about the system or anything else when Trump was elected, and now the same system is suddenly broken when he lost.
    Trump wasn't elected via cheating. Why would I complain? But any educated person would agree our elections are quite susceptible to fraud.

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    There's nothing to fix. America has the longer lasting representative democracy in the history of the world.
    It is clear that the voting system is broken. You're going to shill to the ends of the earth that it isn't. Fine.

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    Calling me names only proves you don't want to talk about the subject, and rather hide in your hypocrisy. I'm not falling for that, this isn't about me, it's about you deflecting why your terrible candidate and former president lost an election.

    There's nothing to fix. America has the longer lasting representative democracy in the history of the world. And if there was one person that wanted to destroy it, it was your candidate.

    The reason you want to 'fix' it (aka: disenfranchise legal voters), is because you're a sore loser and your ideas no longer are appealing. It's you that need to change, not the 'system'.



    Trump ran on a liberal platform. Economic protectionism, cheap healthcare, the rich having to take a seat back.

    The gig was up as soon as Mitch used him to pass a taxcut for the rich and the pandemic exposed him to be a complete fraud.

    He ran on 'law and order' for re-election, coz he couldn't run on a liberal plan anymore, and lost by a solid chunk to ing sleepy joe.

    Democrats are far from panacea, and have a number of problems on their own, but you need to wake up and see what's going on around you.
    Daddy issues.

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    Calling me names only proves you don't want to talk about the subject, and rather hide in your hypocrisy. I'm not falling for that, this isn't about me, it's about you deflecting why your terrible candidate and former president lost an election.
    I can handle a legitimate loss just fine. But I'm not fine with rigged elections. Nobody should be. But you support the party that blatantly cheats and I have no control over your decisions.

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    He ran on 'law and order' for re-election, coz he couldn't run on a liberal plan anymore, and lost by a solid chunk to ing sleepy joe.

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    His opponent was terrible.

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