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    Watching 'Last Dance'. One dude calls Pippen the GOAT #2 player in Episode One.
    I know he was there for six rings. But Kobe was #2 for five rings.
    This should be examined.

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    Pippen is disrespectful of Stern

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    By this logic Robert Horry is the GOAT coat tailer with his 10 or whatever

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    By this logic Robert Horry is the GOAT coat tailer with his 10 or whatever
    Sure. Possibly.

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    Lol but those acting like he doesnt have a case somewhere between 6 and 12 or so . are crazy or hating. I cant put him top 5 but top 10? No question.

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    Put Shawn Marion on the Bulls and they win the same rings

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    Lol but those acting like he doesnt have a case somewhere between 6 and 12 or so . are crazy or hating. I cant put him top 5 but top 10? No question.
    Kobe and Jordan were sub .500 when trying to beast mode it. Both are over-rated.
    You take Stern's rigging and cheating out of it and neither are top ten.
    Dad Killer maybe you could argue it. Kobe, no.

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    Kobe and Jordan were sub .500 when trying to beast mode it. Both are over-rated.
    You take Stern's rigging and cheating out of it and neither are top ten.
    Dad Killer maybe you could argue it. Kobe, no.
    Um, no.

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    By this logic Robert Horry is the GOAT coat tailer with his 10 or whatever
    Horry was a role player in a few playoff series and a scrub the rest. Now that he's retired with 7 rings, he's become a bloated smug. Maybe there's a reason we haven't seen him on ESPN lately.

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    Kobe and Jordan were sub .500 when trying to beast mode it. Both are over-rated.
    You take Stern's rigging and cheating out of it and neither are top ten.
    Dad Killer maybe you could argue it. Kobe, no.
    Trolling aside, MJ is the GOAT. Duncan, Bird, Shaq, Kobe and Wilt could go either way tbh.

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    Trolling aside, MJ is the GOAT. Duncan, Bird, Shaq, Kobe and Wilt could go either way tbh.
    MJ's not in the discussion.

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    Greatest sidekick?

    Yes. Judging based on McHale, Pippen, Dumars, Dr.J, Stockton, Penny,

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    Lol but those acting like he doesnt have a case somewhere between 6 and 12 or so . are crazy or hating. I cant put him top 5 but top 10? No question.
    12

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    Kobe vs Lebron


    My most two hated player

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    I rather play with Lebron but I fear Kobe taking the last shot

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    The ironic part is that Kobe was actually very much NOT clutch when you look at his overall stats in the final minutes of close games. Especially in comparison to the greats like MJ.

    GM's polled during Kobe's era all felt the same . Kobe was feared when taking the last shot, mainly because he was so unafraid. I'll say this, I feel the same if we are talking Kobe or Lebron in the final minute. Lebron will dish it off to Kyle Korver or some other role player for the final shot -- -the right basketball play sometimes, but not the smartest and not what true killers do.

    I rather play with Lebron but I fear Kobe taking the last shot

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    The ironic part is that Kobe was actually very much NOT clutch when you look at his overall stats in the final minutes of close games. Especially in comparison to the greats like MJ.

    GM's polled during Kobe's era all felt the same . Kobe was feared when taking the last shot, mainly because he was so unafraid. I'll say this, I feel the same if we are talking Kobe or Lebron in the final minute. Lebron will dish it off to Kyle Korver or some other role player for the final shot -- -the right basketball play sometimes, but not the smartest and not what true killers do.
    MJ was such a true killer he got bailed out by Armstrong, Kerr, Paxton and even Pippen made some big shots in the playoffs but people don’t mention it

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    MJ was such a true killer he got bailed out by Armstrong, Kerr, Paxton and even Pippen made some big shots in the playoffs but people don’t mention it
    Kerr and Paxton didn't bail out . Jordan made the right play and gave them WIDE open shots. That's what made MJ special. He trusted his teammates AND had the killer instinct.

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    Kerr and Paxton didn't bail out . Jordan made the right play and gave them WIDE open shots. That's what made MJ special. He trusted his teammates AND had the killer instinct.
    that bull narrative again, double standards SMH

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    The ironic part is that Kobe was actually very much NOT clutch when you look at his overall stats in the final minutes of close games. Especially in comparison to the greats like MJ.

    GM's polled during Kobe's era all felt the same . Kobe was feared when taking the last shot, mainly because he was so unafraid. I'll say this, I feel the same if we are talking Kobe or Lebron in the final minute. Lebron will dish it off to Kyle Korver or some other role player for the final shot -- -the right basketball play sometimes, but not the smartest and not what true killers do.
    Kobe was by far my most hated player. Hated because he walked the walk. He was overrated in his time but looking back 5 les. He stayed in LA and helped create a double winner. Defense overrated but offensively he did his homework and aced it. He controlled the court. Alpha.

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    Stockton was an engine, not a sidekick.

    I wish that he and Nash had learned the value of being hardcore scorers more often though.
    They could've been more Curry like in that respect.
    Stockton better defense than those 2

    They go over the pick

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    Greatest sidekick?

    Yes. Judging based on McHale, Pippen, Dumars, Dr.J, Stockton, Penny,
    Stockton was an engine, not a sidekick.

    I wish that he and Nash had learned the value of being hardcore scorers more often though.
    They could've been more Curry like in that respect.

    You could call Old DJ a sidekick, but I wouldn't. It's like calling old Bird a sidekick to Reggie Lewis.
    Just doesn't make sense.

    McHale was more functionary than a sidekick. And at 86 peak, it could even be argued he was more 1B.

    Dumars, Isiah, Vinnie were more like a trio at peak level.

    Pippen deferred to Jordan in 4th Q scoring, but that's all. Jordan needed him more than he needed Jordan, tbh.

    Penny; sure call him a sidekick. I don't care.

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    Stockton better defense than those 2

    They go over the pick
    All-time steals leader and all-time assists leader.
    Probably the most under-rated player ever.
    It's a shame Karl Malone choked away his rings / Stern stealing them.

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    All-time steals leader and all-time assists leader.
    Probably the most under-rated player ever.
    It's a shame Karl Malone choked away his rings / Stern stealing them.
    Watching the Bulls series. Jazz really needed their guards to dominate. I think in todays NBA they would launch alot more 3s

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    I rather play with Lebron but I fear Kobe taking the last shot
    You should fear Kobe taking any shot if you are playing with him.

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