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    Picture says #KJ3, not giving up number 3?? Pure speculation but it’s weird that we don’t know Paul’s number yet

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    Picture says #KJ3, not giving up number 3?? Pure speculation but it’s weird that we don’t know Paul’s number yet
    We’ll probably know in a week whether Keldon gets traded, or sells his number to Paul.

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    We’ll probably know in a week whether Keldon gets traded, or sells his number to Paul.
    If Paul were going to get the number one way or another, they would have had a jersey ready at the press conference. I think if Keldon isn’t traded, he keeps 3. That is based, of course, on my thoughts that CP3 won’t be here all season.

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    keldon seems to have leaned up a bit from

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    If Paul were going to get the number one way or another, they would have had a jersey ready at the press conference. I think if Keldon isn’t traded, he keeps 3. That is based, of course, on my thoughts that CP3 won’t be here all season.
    They could just be waiting because, if Keldon stays he can sell the number to Paul... but if he's traded, Paul gets it for free.

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    Keldon has plenty of chips on his shoulders to prove his naysayers after all these trade rumors. He’s still to me the best 6th man candidate with his ability to score. I’m here to root for him.. but if he’s what it takes to get Markkanen plus a few FRP’s, then thanks for everything

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    keldon seems to have leaned up a bit from
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    Complete your sentence
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    He appears to be in better physical condition than he has been since his rookie season.

    Unless something crazy happens, then he's penciled in as the 6th man/first guy off the bench.

    I'm mostly intrigued by who they'll pair with him and Collins in the frontcourt. Do they start Barnes or bring him off the bench with Johnson - Collins?

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    He appears to be in better physical condition than he has been since his rookie season.

    Unless something crazy happens, then he's penciled in as the 6th man/first guy off the bench.

    I'm mostly intrigued by who they'll pair with him and Collins in the frontcourt. Do they start Barnes or bring him off the bench with Johnson - Collins?
    Barnes is the only threat from 3 that we have as far as size goes. If the dude isn’t a starter then Sochan can’t be one either. Need that spacing. You can’t have Vassell as the only starter who can consistently make 3s on volume shooting

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    Barnes is the only threat from 3 that we have as far as size goes. If the dude isn’t a starter then Sochan can’t be one either. Need that spacing. You can’t have Vassell as the only starter who can consistently make 3s on volume shooting
    So you think they'll bench Sochan for Barnes or pair them together?

    I think starting Barnes creates an issue with lack of size off the bench. We'll see what happens, but I prefer him coming off the bench. While Castle/Sochan/Wembanyama start in the frontcourt. I get that that grouping will have bad spacing, but the upside defensively is too tantalizing.

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    I’ll be really surprised if the starting lineup isn’t

    Wemby
    Sochan
    Barnes
    Dev
    CP3

    bench will be Tre, Castle, Julian, KJ, and Collins with Branham playing as well in one of the wing spots.

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    So you think they'll bench Sochan for Barnes or pair them together?

    I think starting Barnes creates an issue with lack of size off the bench. We'll see what happens, but I prefer him coming off the bench. While Castle/Sochan/Wembanyama start in the frontcourt. I get that that grouping will have bad spacing, but the upside defensively is too tantalizing.
    CP3 already said on the Herd he is starting in SA. Vassell at the 2. Barnes at the 3. And Sochan at the 4.but switch them for defensive purposes. Wemby at the 5

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    CP3 already said on the Herd he is starting in SA. Vassell at the 2. Barnes at the 3. And Sochan at the 4.but switch them for defensive purposes. Wemby at the 5
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    CP-Whatever declared the entire starting unit on The Herd?

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    CP3 already said on the Herd he is starting in SA. Vassell at the 2. Barnes at the 3. And Sochan at the 4.but switch them for defensive purposes. Wemby at the 5
    That’s what we suspected, right?

    Wonder what the plan with Tre is? He’s gotta be feeling a little insecure after what happened to his brother, no?

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    CP-Whatever declared the entire starting unit on The Herd?
    Whoops. My bad I really phrased that badly. Spaces KA. Spaces.
    CP3 said he is starting.

    I was speculating the rest of the line up

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    That’s what we suspected, right?

    Wonder what the plan with Tre is? He’s gotta be feeling a little insecure after what happened to his brother, no?
    I think they’re going to have Castle start off as a 2 guard with Tre running the point from the bench

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    I don't personally like Sochan and Barnes starting together (too many similar skills but with shooting from Barnes), but going by that starting line here is the bench rotation (IMO):

    PG: Tre Jones
    SG: Branham
    SF: Castle
    PF: Mamu
    C: Collins

    (Spurs really need an upgrade at back-up PF and/or C, IMO.)

    I think regardless of how the rotation shakes out that Champagnie and Wesley (as much as Spurs Nation seems to dislike/hate him) will get plenty of opportunities. Pop likes to rest and monitor his veterans' minutes, so they'll see time when Barnes and Paul are out or resting.

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    I don't personally like Sochan and Barnes starting together (too many similar skills but with shooting from Barnes)
    I'd like to hear which of their skills are similar?
    They're as different as they can be if we talk players of similar size.

    Last season Barnes had more 3pt than 2pt attempts.
    He's not a playmaker, not even 2 assist per game career average.
    On the other hand, he doesn't turn the ball over or foul.
    Lost a step, but still solid defensively and knows how to defend bigger wings.

    Meanwhile, Jeremy will be the point of attack defender who's got solid passing skills for a forward, has no range whatsoever and commits more fouls due to his role.
    Is also a better rebounder, especially offensively.

    Jeremy is useless without the ball and not that good with it, Barnes is at his best without the ball.
    Could we have better starting forwards? I hope so, as soon as the next season, but you can't say they don't complement each other well.

    PG: Tre Jones
    SG: Branham
    SF: Castle
    PF: Mamu
    C: Collins
    This will probably be the rest of the 10 man rotation, but I don't expect these 5 to play together much.
    Minutes will be staggered, Devin playing with the bench unit seems like a logical thing to do.
    Barnes should also play a lot of minutes with the bench because they really lack shooting and Mamu is bad defensively, but has good chemistry with Wemby.

    I'd say CP3/Tre, Wemby/Collins and Jeremy/Castle should be mutually exclusive and shouldn't ever play together. Anything else goes.

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    Whoops. My bad I really phrased that badly. Spaces KA. Spaces.
    CP3 said he is starting.

    I was speculating the rest of the line up
    No worries.

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    I don't personally like Sochan and Barnes starting together (too many similar skills but with shooting from Barnes), but going by that starting line here is the bench rotation (IMO):

    PG: Tre Jones
    SG: Branham
    SF: Castle
    PF: Mamu
    C: Collins

    (Spurs really need an upgrade at back-up PF and/or C, IMO.)

    I think regardless of how the rotation shakes out that Champagnie and Wesley (as much as Spurs Nation seems to dislike/hate him) will get plenty of opportunities. Pop likes to rest and monitor his veterans' minutes, so they'll see time when Barnes and Paul are out or resting.
    I'd like to hear which of their skills are similar?
    They're as different as they can be if we talk players of similar size.

    Last season Barnes had more 3pt than 2pt attempts.
    He's not a playmaker, not even 2 assist per game career average.
    On the other hand, he doesn't turn the ball over or foul.
    Lost a step, but still solid defensively and knows how to defend bigger wings.

    Meanwhile, Jeremy will be the point of attack defender who's got solid passing skills for a forward, has no range whatsoever and commits more fouls due to his role.
    Is also a better rebounder, especially offensively.

    Jeremy is useless without the ball and not that good with it, Barnes is at his best without the ball.
    Could we have better starting forwards? I hope so, as soon as the next season, but you can't say they don't complement each other well.



    This will probably be the rest of the 10 man rotation, but I don't expect these 5 to play together much.
    Minutes will be staggered, Devin playing with the bench unit seems like a logical thing to do.
    Barnes should also play a lot of minutes with the bench because they really lack shooting and Mamu is bad defensively, but has good chemistry with Wemby.

    I'd say CP3/Tre, Wemby/Collins and Jeremy/Castle should be mutually exclusive and shouldn't ever play together. Anything else goes.
    Damn, Keldon moved out of the rotation altogether for Branham and Mamu minutes? What a fall from grace.

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    Castle is going to get run at point guard with some group and he will get that opportunity rather soon.

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    Damn, Keldon moved out of the rotation altogether for Branham and Mamu minutes? What a fall from grace.
    Forgot about Keldon.

    I hate him as the small ball 4, but it's either that or moving Castle to the 2 and taking Branham completely out of the rotation.

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    I'd like to hear which of their skills are similar?
    They're as different as they can be if we talk players of similar size.

    Last season Barnes had more 3pt than 2pt attempts.
    He's not a playmaker, not even 2 assist per game career average.
    On the other hand, he doesn't turn the ball over or foul.
    Lost a step, but still solid defensively and knows how to defend bigger wings.

    Meanwhile, Jeremy will be the point of attack defender who's got solid passing skills for a forward, has no range whatsoever and commits more fouls due to his role.
    Is also a better rebounder, especially offensively.

    Jeremy is useless without the ball and not that good with it, Barnes is at his best without the ball.
    Could we have better starting forwards? I hope so, as soon as the next season, but you can't say they don't complement each other well.



    This will probably be the rest of the 10 man rotation, but I don't expect these 5 to play together much.
    Minutes will be staggered, Devin playing with the bench unit seems like a logical thing to do.
    Barnes should also play a lot of minutes with the bench because they really lack shooting and Mamu is bad defensively, but has good chemistry with Wemby.

    I'd say CP3/Tre, Wemby/Collins and Jeremy/Castle should be mutually exclusive and shouldn't ever play together. Anything else goes.
    I misspoke, what I should have said is that neither is a true SF (Barnes has lost too much athletically), neither brings any self-creation to the table and will fully rely on Wembanyama, Paul and Vassell to score.

    That's why I'm higher on starting Castle at the 3 even if he's a bit undersized.

    Castle is going to get run at point guard with some group and he will get that opportunity rather soon.
    I think Castle will be a Swiss Army knife for the Spurs seeing minutes at the PG, SG & SF. Depending on matchups, who he meshes with well and availability of the other main perimeter players (Paul, Vassell, Johnson, & Branham).
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    Forgot about Keldon.

    I hate him as the small ball 4, but it's either that or moving Castle to the 2 and taking Branham completely out of the rotation.
    I'd put Keldon at the 3, Castle at the 2 and Branham in China.

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