Do tell. Give me your numbers.
So you're saying the CDC and the surgeon general said face masks don't prevent the spread of the virus as a clever lie to conserve face masks? That almost sounds worse than just being ignorant of asymptomatic people or people simply not yet showing symptoms.
Occam's razor says that both the CDC and the surgeon general genuinely believed face mask use for people not showing symptoms was pointless, instead of some clever conspiracy to lie about the efficacy of using them.
CDC didn't make that claim. Stop lying.
Well, the CDC is a branch of the Executive, so they certainly are not necessarily bound to science as an epidemiologist would. And sure, plenty of blame to go around for the ups in the response to this pandemic.
You are lazy
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said Thursday that an estimated 20 million Americans, about 6% of the population, have likely been infected with COVID-19
To the tune of almost 130k dead in a matter of 6 months...
And you can stop your gossip el nono
So they didn't claim they're infected, but that they could be. Again, stop making claims the CDC didn't make.
And this will never be proven. As many are not confirmed cases.
Except the most obvious answer is that face masks actually do not help prevent the spread of the virus, but it might help encourage awareness of social distancing and proper hygiene, that the virus is active, and that is important in preventing the spread. It might also serve to salve some anxiety by people who just know they are going to get it and die.. you know, the hypochondriacs.
You can't make me. shhh, girl... adults talking here.
Lol
So let me get this straight. You accept cdc probable cases.
You do not accept when cdc states 20 mil have probably been infected.
Got it
How is that different than saying 130K have likely died of COVID?
Lol he believes cases hospitalizations and fatalities. All include lots of Probable.
Does not believe cdc stating probable.... lololololololol
I mean, I don't necessarily discard a psychological factor, but on the other hand, this isn't the first pandemic we face, and we know masks generally do help minimize the spread of airborne pathogens (thus why they're mandatory for medical personnel). The difference here is that the medical personnel use N95 masks which have a much higher level of protection, and are supposed to protect both the wearer and the patients. For the typical mask, that's obviously not the case.
No, I never made a case with the CDC numbers, but the actual locally recorded numbers, none of which claim to be estimates.
Swing and miss again, try a little harder.
I think it's how it's presented. CDC calls deaths an actual number and says it is likely higher, even though the finer print says the counting and reporting schemes are various and local/state controlled. On the other hand, it uses "probable" for stats that no politician is chasing or running from.
he does not accept because then the ifr is low. Cog dis just witnessed
I didn't say they likely died of covid, I flat out said they died of covid, per the local counts.
what do you mean? Locally recorded include probables based off cdc guidelines.
The CDC reports actually says they made that estimate based on the number of positives vs negatives on the blood tests they've received so far. It's an estimate. It's much different than what they do when they report actual numbers from deaths as they came in from actual death certificates.
Apples and oranges, basically.
Lol you dont understand how they count cases deaths or hospitalization. Really? Oh my
I have simply no reason to doubt that a death certificate that says covid is not. An estimate is a completely different thing.
No, you don't understand what an estimate is, period.
Again, swing and miss, try a little harder.
lololoololol
No its not. Localities count off cdc guidance. Probable deaths only have to have a symptom. No pos test
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