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    His team better have him popping adderalls before each debate.
    They don’t really work on Trump. Better look for another alternative.

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    And those people shouldn’t be running for president.

    if you think someone who’s had a 35 year career as a center right wing moderate intends to do anything “progressive” as president.
    if you think that Biden winning president would actually put Biden himself in power. Biden is long finished as anything other than a puppet with the sympathy vote because he lost 3 of his 4 kids before they reached 50, his first wife died young, his only surviving child being in big foreign trouble, etc. A vote for Biden is a vote for President Chuck Schumer with tons of impact by establishment peeps like Pelosi and Feinstein as long as they're still alive and, eventually, yes, progressivists such as 'The Squad' obtaining higher power and voice.

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    if you think that Biden winning president would actually put Biden himself in power. Biden is long finished as anything other than a puppet with the sympathy vote because he lost 3 of his 4 kids before they reached 50, his first wife died young, his only surviving child being in big foreign trouble, etc. A vote for Biden is a vote for President Chuck Schumer with tons of impact by establishment peeps like Pelosi and Feinstein as long as they're still alive and, eventually, yes, progressivists such as 'The Squad' obtaining higher power and voice.
    Ok, if that's the case AND?

    Pelosi and Schumer would put far better policies on the floor than the turtle and Ted ing Cruz. Do you doubt that?

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    Ok, if that's the case AND?

    Pelosi and Schumer would put far better policies on the floor than the turtle and Ted ing Cruz. Do you doubt that?


    Negative Nancy and Chuck E. Cheese. They're laughable.

    But "The Squad" and their ilk gaining more power and voice in our country is a very dangerous proposition.

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    So you will vote orange.
    I will vote for a rock before I vote orange.
    Rocks dont purposely lie and try to divide a country during a pandemic just to get re elected.
    You mean like all of the left as a whole? Lol

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    I can't disagree with that. Like I said, even a chihuahua is a better leader than Orangina, tbh. That's exactly what Joe has going for him, he's not Trump.

    I just feel rather uncomfortable when somebody tries to put lipstick on that pig, and your previous post sorta sounded like that (maybe I misinterpreted).

    Side question, somewhat related: if Joe loses, does the DNC has to blow it up and start again? Or are we gonna run 73-year old Chuck Schummer and Elena, and pretend they're progressive next time around?
    I think you did misinterpret. I was challenging the notion that how articulate someone might be isn't necessarily evidence of "cognitive decline." Even if Joe was a more articulate speaker in the past than he is now, that doesn't mean anything. And it's irritating to me that the Fox News propaganda machine keeps running with that angle when Dear Leader is showing more evidence of cognitive decline and irrational thinking. But he speaks with such energy! And some on the left seem to be buying Biden's imminent dementia, as well. We just don't know.

    I also wasn't trying to put any lipstick on his platform. I simply linked an article showing his proposed tax plan, which gets a thumbs up from me.

    On your last point, if progressives are tired of the old politicians the DNC keeps trotting out, younger progressives simply need to get out and vote. And no, this isn't a swipe at "kids today." Young people from all generations are typically more apathetic than older generations. That's the main issue why political progress has remained stagnant in the US.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmc.../#6b00fb2cd04e

    You should know as you've gone through life your priorities do change, especially when you have a family. You become a bit more "selfish" and will put your family's well being above social well being, so this means the idealistic democratic socialist at 19 might vote more economically conservative when he's 40. He'll of course be for all the typical progressive causes like LBGT rights, racial equality, gun control, pro-choice, prison reform and what have you, but he might end up holding his nose and voting for a moderate republican or dem because they'll save him 10K with their tax plan vs. the other candidates. That extra 10K might mean the vacation him and his family have been wanting to take for years, or the start of little Jimmy's college fund. Or if he's a small business owner, it might help keep the doors open for another year. Basically, you can't count on the current young progressives being that progressive over their lives, so you can't assume they'll vote for the next Bernie when they're 35 or that they will change things when they come into power.

    And yeah, a progressive society like that in Europe is better for everyone (except the uber-rich) in the long run, but our aforementioned 40 year old might not want to wait how ever many years for those progressive economic policies to start paying off for him. This is why young people need to vote and drag that demographic kicking and screaming into progress.

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    OP, more fake news mongering from the 3rd world fake Rolex pushers.

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