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Also, if history is any indicator, and going by what followed the 1920 Spanish Flu pandemic, and great depression right after, children were fine. And you didn't even have Zoom teleconference back then...
My mom taught for 35 years. I was a behavior management specialist for 6 years for kids with severe autism. I have a 2.5 year old in “school” aka boutique teaching daycare now. Anything else?
Also, if history is any indicator, and going by what followed the 1920 Spanish Flu pandemic, and great depression right after, children were fine. And you didn't even have Zoom teleconference back then...
Dutch health site???
I dont see the dutch breaking infection records everyday ma niga
You seriously want to apply dutch health directions to todays Florida or Texas???
And you post dutch medical directions and ignore the fact USA has not even reached peak yet
You fell for Russiagate...I don’t dismiss everything you’ve said after that just because of that. Suit yourself if you can’t see the difference in me discussing them.
the children will never recover mentally from this
Again ppl failto see the biggest problem which is many school systems woulf not be able to keep up financially or administratively with a texas/florida like e.
Some school systems, yes they could (like in the northeastbof US) but even for them it would be tough
So you still think it was Seth Rich that gave all those emails to Wikileaks and then got killed for it?
It's funny because the children that ended up being ed up adults are the boomers, and the only thing they had to deal with was affluenza.
Again ppl failto see the biggest problem which is many school systems woulf not be able to keep up financially or administratively with a texas/florida like e.
Some school systems, yes they could (like in the northeastbof US) but even for them it would be tough
“What we’re worried about is the adults.”
--Dutch school technical coordinator
The dutch are worried about the adults and had 37 infections and 4 deaths today
“What we’re worried about is the adults.”
--Dutch school technical coordinator
Texas had 10,000 infections and 86 deaths today. And apparently the dutch are the cowboys
Pediatricians
The importance of in-person learning is well-do ented, and there is already evidence of the negative impacts on children because of school closures in the spring of 2020. Lengthy time away from school and associated interruption of supportive services often results in social isolation, making it difficult for schools to identify and address important learning deficits as well as child and adolescent physical or sexual abuse, substance use, depression, and suicidal ideation. This, in turn, places children and adolescents at considerable risk of morbidity and, in some cases, mortality. Beyond the educational impact and social impact of school closures, there has been substantial impact on food security and physical activity for children and families.
https://services.aap.org/en/pages/20...on-in-schools/
Child psychologists
The delay in getting children and adolescents back to schools is a "national disaster" that is putting their mental health at risk, say leading psychologists.
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-53037702
They also want kids over the age of 2 to wear masks in school.
Can you keep a mask on your kid now?
How is El Pollo Loco handling the COVID-19 surge in Florida?
You think that's how covid is transmitted?
Jesus it's insane how many stupid ignorant people there are in this forum
Up next: "obscure studies show masks are bad for kids to wear"
Oh awesome, everyone take off your masks at the same time to eat in a small room
Yah, we've gotten to a point where a large number of parents are reliant on schools for daycare and food for their kids
"AUSTIN, Texas — The Texas Education Agency has announced COVID-19 safety guidelines for students returning to school for the upcoming school year. Those guidelines include masks for everyone inside schools and screenings.
According to the TEA, parents can choose remote learning for their children at any point in the 2020-21 school year. Parents who choose remote learning may be asked to commit to remote instruction for a full grading period (6 or 9 weeks), but will not have to commit more than two weeks in advance, allowing a decision to be made off the latest public health information......"
https://www.khou.com/article/news/he...f-cf4d99cdd7f5
What a mess
These discussions are worth having. We should continuously weigh the costs and benefits of shutting down vs. opening up, and approach those reopenings and shutdowns on a case-by-case basis. Just because it makes sense to open up a school, doesn't mean it makes sense to open up bars, restaurants, and indoor dining.
That said, we ED OURSELVES here early on. We should've went with a hard nationwide lock-down in March of all but essential businesses. Europe did just that, and have flattened like no one's business. Example. The horror story that was Italy is at 13 deaths/7 day average at day 126. We are at 511 and just had the highest daily death count we've had in nearly a month.
And I solely blame s in that "Team Reality" contingent (Ginn, Berenson, Levitt, Ethical Skeptic, etc). The misinformation they've been spinning has been near criminal. The virus doesn't have a natural in' bell curve progression. See Iran's double hump.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/iran/
That's not a second wave, either. They got overconfident during the period where they cut their death toll down and are now seeing the results of it.
https://www.bbc.com/news/52959756
The lockdowns have not contributed to more "deaths" than the virus, as those idiots kept claiming it would.
That whole bunch of gray is the excess deaths attributed to Covid. The beige is excess deaths not attributed to Covid, Flu, or Pneumonia. If "the cure was worse than the disease," we see much more non-Covid deaths than Covid deaths. And yes, I know the "cure is worse than the disease" logic is looking at the long term ramifications of lockdowns, but IF we locked down hard in March, we would've flattened the spread as Europe has while also mitigating the long term effects of long shutdowns. This is a concept "Team Reality" led by that Berenson didn't and still don't understand.
All reports are the FL, TX, AZ ICUs are filling up rapidly. I'm sure Team Reality will spin a few graphs for us, but word from the frontlines of the healthcare workers say they are strained. And the once lax politicians of those states are basically in panic, with Abbott throwing local leaders under the bus for supposedly doing "nothing." DeSantis extending the state of emergency of Florida. And AZ just being a cluster all around. California is also not trending positively. Our positive rate is only 8 percent on new tests (vs. 33% in AZ, which is terribad), but can't overlook exponential growth.
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We are going to have to get creative. The young kids really do need proper schooling. And the parents need to be freed up before they kill their own offspring.
That doesn't dispute what you quoted/responded to. We know that in an ideal world, it's preferable that kids attend school (something I wholeheartedly agree with, BTW, as I pointed out to rmt numerous times how her homeschooling deprived the kids of a number of items listed there).
But unfortunately, we're in a world in crisis right now. I think this should be approached at the local level, like we do with the economy. Places where the situation is more or less under control, should re-open. Places where infections are rampant, should probably tone it down until they bring them under control.
tbh, I'm curious now to try it out. It always looked like a junk/fast food joint to me, but now that people are even risking death to get a piece of that, they must put cocaine or something on that chicken...
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