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    Which liberal monuments celebrate slavery?
    Majority of America do not think/care about slavery. We immigrated here and aren't African.

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    "However, in an email statement to CNN, a spokesperson for Target said the retailer wants "everyone who shops with us to feel welcomed, valued and respected and we strictly prohibit discrimination and harassment in any form. We are very sorry for this guest's experience at our store and immediately apologized to her when she made our store leaders aware of the situation."

    "We have investigated the matter and believe that it was not a deliberate act but an unfortunate mistake that could have been avoided with a simple clarification," the spokesperson said. "We're taking appropriate actions with the team member, including additional training, to ensure this does not occur again."

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/us/mu...rnd/index.html


    Sounds about right to me.

    Starbucks needs to come up with a system where the customer types in their own name to avoid like this

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    Appreciate you for being a moderate thus far in this thread, but let's not sweep certain relevant issues under the rug to serve one agenda or the other. All opinions must be heard until we find a fair, righteous, and adequate solution as a society. 2020 has exposed a lot about our country and how quickly rotten people and things can get if a little goes wrong.
    I'd rather we just address this one particular situation and not turn this into another thread of general left vs right isms.

    It seems pretty premature to call for this person's firing given only the original story.

    1) It looks like that particular name could sound a lot like, "Isis".
    2) "Isis" is an actual name.
    3) I just don't buy some young (presumably) chick working at Starbucks being so overtly racist.
    4) I believe that the vast majority of people aren't assholes to that degree.

    All that points to just a simple mistake imo.

    Maybe when all the facts come out, that proves to be wrong. But from what we know so far, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.

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    "However, in an email statement to CNN, a spokesperson for Target said the retailer wants "everyone who shops with us to feel welcomed, valued and respected and we strictly prohibit discrimination and harassment in any form. We are very sorry for this guest's experience at our store and immediately apologized to her when she made our store leaders aware of the situation."

    "We have investigated the matter and believe that it was not a deliberate act but an unfortunate mistake that could have been avoided with a simple clarification," the spokesperson said. "We're taking appropriate actions with the team member, including additional training, to ensure this does not occur again."

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/us/mu...rnd/index.html


    Sounds about right to me.

    Starbucks needs to come up with a system where the customer types in their own name to avoid like this
    There it is.

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    I'd rather we just address this one particular situation and not turn this into another thread of general left vs right isms.

    It seems pretty premature to call for this person's firing given only the original story.

    1) It looks like that particular name could sound a lot like, "Isis".
    2) "Isis" is an actual name.
    3) I just don't buy some young (presumably) chick working at Starbucks being so overtly racist.
    4) I believe that the vast majority of people aren't assholes to that degree.

    All that points to just a simple mistake imo.

    Maybe when all the facts come out, that proves to be wrong. But from what we know so far, I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt.
    Excellent points.

    Also, "racist" doesn't really apply; xenophobic against a particular culture is a better term, but Muslims are not some single race or skin color. But the point still stands. Just had to point that out.

    It was a simple mistake. Also, ISIS has been pretty much dead as a legitimate world problem/world en y for over a year now, maybe two. Isis is/was a moderately common female name, particularly in the Hispanic community and was a moon goddess in ancient Egyptian/Phoenician lore.

    This is a money grab on her part, plain and simple. Hope she doesn't get the moon in return just to set a bad example. Like someone said, $50 one-time gift card and an apology suffices. If she tries to do it again or with any company, she is the one who should get sued for attempted extortion.

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    Lol yeah as soon as we saw her name it was pretty obvious it was probably an honest mistake.

    "..Aishah is not an unknown name and I repeated it multiple times."..."

    None of us have ever heard that name

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    Lol yeah as soon as we saw her name it was pretty obvious it was probably an honest mistake.

    "..Aishah is not an unknown name and I repeated it multiple times."..."

    None of us have ever heard that name
    Here's an entertaining hyperbolic take.

    "This is not a simple mistake. No one puts, you know, the 'KKK' on the cup of somebody’s drink," said Jaylani Hussein, CAIR Minnesota’s executive director.

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    Yes that's my half caff double foam sugar free vanilla latte with cream and stevia

    Two sleeves please and thank you

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    Here's an entertaining hyperbolic take.
    CAIR is a terrorist organization.

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    Yes that's my half caff double foam sugar free vanilla latte with cream and stevia

    Two sleeves please and thank you
    Implying that a Klan redneck would get hippy stevia instead of triple-extra sugar, tbh

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    Yes that's my half caff double foam sugar free vanilla latte with cream and stevia

    Two sleeves please and thank you

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    Implying that a Klan redneck would get hippy stevia instead of triple-extra sugar, tbh
    do you feel the need to comment on every joke?

    You're like Dwight from the Dundie Awards.

    Michael: Speaking of relationships, of all, all way shapes and forms. Um, I was out on a very, very hot date with a girl from HR, Dwight.
    Dwight: Really? We don’t have any girls from HR.
    Michael: No, that…for the sake of the story. And things were getting hot and heavy.
    Dwight: Yeah?
    Michael: And I was about to take her bra off…
    Dwight: Yeah!
    Michael: …when she made me fill out six hours of paperwork-
    Dwight: Like an AIDS test?

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    Can one of the board Muslims tell us how her name is pronounced phonetically?
    Listen to "Isn't She Lovely" by Stevie Wonder. ah-EE-sha

    I have no idea how someone could get Isis from that.

    But sure, ask the employee WTF. Get a hearing test. Maybe the employee is mentally challenged.

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    Malcolm X for one was a black supremacist and believed in killing random whites for revenge for his "people's" ancestors. A terrorist in every which way.
    I'm going to ask you for actual quotes on that.

    Also, that had nothing to do with my question.

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    Lol yeah as soon as we saw her name it was pretty obvious it was probably an honest mistake.

    "..Aishah is not an unknown name and I repeated it multiple times."..."

    None of us have ever heard that name
    I have. Guess that's why I went overboard.

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    do you feel the need to comment on every joke?

    You're like Dwight from the Dundie Awards.

    Michael: Speaking of relationships, of all, all way shapes and forms. Um, I was out on a very, very hot date with a girl from HR, Dwight.
    Dwight: Really? We don’t have any girls from HR.
    Michael: No, that…for the sake of the story. And things were getting hot and heavy.
    Dwight: Yeah?
    Michael: And I was about to take her bra off…
    Dwight: Yeah!
    Michael: …when she made me fill out six hours of paperwork-
    Dwight: Like an AIDS test?
    Ah, well, at least I'm that Dwight and not the 6'11" power-bottom one.

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    I'm going to ask you for actual quotes on that.

    Also, that had nothing to do with my question.
    So slavery is bad but advocating for vengeance and murder isn't?

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    So slavery is bad but advocating for vengeance and murder isn't?
    I don't see any quotes.

    Where are they?

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    I don't see any quotes.

    Where are they?
    First thing that came up when Googling Malcolm X quotes... “If ballots won't work, bullets will”... 'nuff said.

    Any more niggеr Muslim terrorist s you'd like to defend, tbh?

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    I have. Guess that's why I went overboard.
    I guess that's why she did too.

    If the employee had written I.S.I.S. on the cup then yeah, but i dunno, I'm on the benefit of the doubt side for the employee, especially after all that training all of them just had.

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    I always thought this 70s Saturday morning tv show chick was hot


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    First thing that came up when Googling Malcolm X quotes... “If ballots won't work, bullets will”... 'nuff said.

    Any more niggеr Muslim terrorist s you'd like to defend, tbh?
    that's isn't nuff said. You made a specific claim.

    Where's the quote?

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    I guess that's why she did too.

    If the employee had written I.S.I.S. on the cup then yeah, but i dunno, I'm on the benefit of the doubt side for the employee, especially after all that training all of them just had.
    Man, they really need to ask how to spell the name. I can't believe that wasn't part of the training.

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    Majority of America do not think/care about slavery. We immigrated here and aren't African.
    Actually you think about it all the time because you try to defend the past practice today.

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    I always thought this 70s Saturday morning tv show chick was hot

    Yep.




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