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    Kinda like the armbands in Germany 193something huh?
    Actually nothing like that at all.

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    Actually nothing like that at all.
    Disagreed.

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    Tell us all how it's exactly like that, hater.

    Explain fully.

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    Kinda like the armbands in Germany 193something huh?
    not seeing it, I was talking about businesses trying to protect their patrons and themselves.

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    J.&J. Vaccine May Be Less Effective Against Delta, Study Suggests

    Many who received the shot may need to consider boosters, the authors said.

    But federal health officials do not recommend second doses.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/20/h...ine-delta.html

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    Boston Globe email:

    Delta variant now makes up 83 percent of cases nationwide



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    States are sitting on millions of surplus Covid-19 vaccine doses as expiration dates approach

    doses likely expire this summer

    Several state health departments told STAT they have repeatedly asked the federal government to redistribute their supply to other countries, many of which are facing a third wave of the Covid-19 pandemic.

    Officials in Washington have rejected those requests, citing legal and logistical challenges.

    “We’re drowning in this stuff,”

    “It’s starting to get a bit silly and we want to make sure we’re being good stewards.”

    Currently, states have administered 52.36 million fewer doses than have been distributed to them,

    even a conservative estimate suggests at least half is likely excess vaccine,

    That would leave 26.2 million unused doses at the state level —

    enough to protect at least 13.1 million people.

    https://www.statnews.com/2021/07/20/states-are-sitting-on-millions-of-surplus-covid-19-vaccine-doses-as-expiration-dates-approach

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    Gov. Abbott encouraging vaccination. He ust be worried about something -- his own national aspirations, most likely.


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    Roundup of nasal vaccine efforts

    Our mucosal immune cells make a special class of antibodies that are constantly secreted from the mucous membranes to protect the nose, gut, and other vulnerable sites from pathogens we’ve seen in the past. “But if you don’t stimulate the immune system in the mucosae, you don’t obtain mucosal immune responses,” says Pierre Charneau, head of the Molecular Virology and Vaccinology Unit at the Pasteur Ins ute.

    Yet most research on SARS-CoV-2 and our immune systems has overlooked mucosal immunity in favor of the easier-to-study systemic immunity.
    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2021...-research.html

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    more time between vaccines may enhance their effectiveness.

    The University of Oxford-led study might help inform vaccination strategies against the Delta variant, which reduces the effectiveness of a first dose of the vaccine even though two doses are still protective, and one author said that the UK’s eight-week gap was a “sweet spot” against Delta.
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...?sf147968896=1

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    Odd that the author makes no mention of Covi-Vac. It's a live-attenuated nasal vaccine and the most promising one out there imo.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/intra...191300835.html

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    Gov. Abbott encouraging vaccination. He ust be worried about something -- his own national aspirations, most likely.

    I don't care about his reasons or aspirations, as long as his endorsement encourages some non-trivial percentage of the hesitant right to actually follow through and get vaccinated.

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    I don't care about his reasons or aspirations, as long as his endorsement encourages some non-trivial percentage of the hesitant right to actually follow through and get vaccinated.
    He's not doing it for aspirations. Just a good Godly man trying to do the job Biden can't get done.

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    Ivermectin Shows Us the Consequences of Politicized Science

    Ivermectin is the new hydroxychloroquine.

    Acontingent of Americans has embraced the anti-parasite drug ivermectin as a miracle cure for COVID-19 despite warnings from the American scientific community that little to no evidence exists of its efficacy.

    At the same time, many Americans have rejected the COVID-19 vaccines in spite of enormous evidence supporting their efficacy.

    The persistent trust in ivermectin and hesitancy to take a widely-proven vaccine is

    a logical consequence of rejecting American ins utions,


    and a consequence exacerbated by those who have politicized science.
    At best, the Egyptian study was poorly performed and partially plagiarized;

    at worst, the data were
    outright fraudulent.

    The study had faced substantial criticism since its release, and was
    recently retracted

    by the preprint website where it was published.

    minimal evidence supports its use over any random medication in your home medicine cabinet in the fight against COVID-19.

    https://thebulwark.com/ivermectin-sh...cized-science/



    ... as strategized by the oligarchy. "Government is the problem"
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    I don't care about his reasons or aspirations, as long as his endorsement encourages some non-trivial percentage of the hesitant right to actually follow through and get vaccinated.
    Getting vaccinated can cause trees to fall on your ass and cripple you for life.

    -Governor Derp

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    it's worth pointing out that Israel got access to the Pfizer vaccine a bit sooner than the rest of the world, but also that the Pfizer vaccine is being studied nationwide in real time.

    A full course of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was just 39% effective at preventing infections and 41% effective at preventing symptomatic infections caused by the Delta Covid-19 variant, according to Israel’s health ministry, down from early estimates of 64% two weeks ago.

    The figures, based on data from an unspecified number of people between June 20 and July 17, are significantly lower than previous estimates of the vaccine’s efficacy against other variants, which initial clinical trials found to be 95%.

    The Israel findings also conflict with several other studies assessing the vaccine’s performance against the Delta variant, which indicated only slightly diminished degrees of protection against infection and mild illness (between 80% and 90%), including peer reviewed research from Public Health England published Wednesday.

    The vaccine still provides very high levels of protection against hospitalization (92%) and severe illness (91%) caused by the Delta variant, the ministry said.

    In a statement, Pfizer and BioNTech noted that while real-world data from Israel show vaccine efficacy in preventing infection and symptomatic disease to decline six months post-vaccination, “efficacy in preventing serious illnesses remains high.”
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberth...tudy-suggests/

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    it's worth pointing out that Israel got access to the Pfizer vaccine a bit sooner than the rest of the world, but also that the Pfizer vaccine is being studied nationwide in real time.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberth...tudy-suggests/
    The 92% and 91% are all I could hope for tbh. Trump s ruined the chance of herd immunity through vaccines; now we have to wait for them to get sick and/or die.

    Oh well.

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    Kinda like the armbands in Germany 193something huh?
    Well, , let's invade Russia.

    Let them try and step up with det prototype jet...

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    Burning your $400,000 salary to pwn the libs and their free vaccines.



    EDIT: There are conflicting reports whether he was actually fired. Some say "negotiations" are ongoing.

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    gargling is cheap and easy to do

    One underexplored strategy to better control transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in schools may involve the use of a dilute oral antiseptic gargle or oral rinse. Similar to the two-way protection afforded by masks, treating the mouth with a safe, effective dilute antiseptic can better protect students by reducing spread and preventing infection. The idea is simple. If a child is asymptomatically infected and shedding virus, a before- and after-school oral treatment can potentially diminish the quan y or quality of active virus entering infectious droplets/aerosols making them less infectious. On the other hand, if a child is healthy but exposed to the virus, the treatment might provide prophylaxis against or at least mitigate infection.
    https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion.../93731?vpass=1

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    does oral antibiotic work on viruses?

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    Burning your $400,000 salary to pwn the libs and their free vaccines.



    EDIT: There are conflicting reports whether he was actually fired. Some say "negotiations" are ongoing.
    Is he the Dear Leader's brother?

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    does no harm, might help marginally.

    not sure what your punch line is.

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    does oral antibiotic work on viruses?
    If it contains enough alcohol it would work the same way hand sanitizers do, it would only work on virus particles in the mouth at the time of the gargle though. Its not like you stop shedding virus in between oral treatments though.

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    Burning your $400,000 salary to pwn the libs and their free vaccines.



    EDIT: There are conflicting reports whether he was actually fired. Some say "negotiations" are ongoing.
    I see there is also dissension in training camps, smart vax'd vs stupid s non-vax'd

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