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    Gilead Sciences published new data Friday on its antiviral drug remdesivir that shows it reduced the risk of death for severely sick coronavirus patients by 62% compared with standard care alone.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/gile...-of-death.html
    Anecdotal evidence tbh

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    Why lopinavir and hydroxychloroquine do not work on COVID-19

    Researchers have now discovered that the concentration of the two drugs in the lungs of Covid-19 patients is not sufficient to fight the virus.

    the results provide important pharmacological and antiviral insights to the rationale of discontinuing the lopinavir/ritonavir arm.

    In fact, they add scientific reasoning why hydroxychloroquine and lopinavir are not effective against the SARS-CoV-2.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/07/200710112108.htm

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    Gilead Sciences published new data Friday on its antiviral drug remdesivir that shows it reduced the risk of death for severely sick coronavirus patients by 62% compared with standard care alone.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/gile...-of-death.html
    I'll take an actual study over that, tbh... not playing it down, but that reads like a marketing release, IMO

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    I'll take an actual study over that, tbh... not playing it down, but that reads like a marketing release, IMO
    95% of whats posted here is tbqh

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    I'll take an actual study over that, tbh... not playing it down, but that reads like a marketing release, IMO
    Eventually a good review article will come out that rates all these companies claims and why its exciting AND what to be skeptical about.
    NY Times is usually good at getting these out, they have people who write in the science section that actually know science.
    But its NY Times, so hater must dismiss it.

    Yes many of them are put out by the companies themselves but people who know this stuff can cut through all of the crap. I will find a good review and put it up and no one will read it.

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    Perhaps the treatment could come from our own bodies. Nothing is proven yet, but a silver lining.

    Taken together, five studies report evidence of pre-existing T cells that recognize SARS-CoV-2 in a significant fraction of people from diverse geographical locations.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0389-z

    Conclusion: Some people (an unknown percentage thus far) might be naturally immune to Covid due to prior infections of common cold coronaviruses. Let's say it's 20 percent of the population. Depending on how we adjust our behavior to lower the herd immunity threshold, we could achieve herd immunity at around 40 percent of the population infected (in theory), so that means only 20 percent of the population would have to be infected. Covid tracking estimates our true infected rate at 7.3%. https://covid19-projections.com/us

    Mathematicians from the University of Nottingham and University of Stockholm devised a simple model categorising people into groups reflecting age and social activity level. When differences in age and social activity are incorporated in the model, the herd immunity level reduces from 60% to 43%. The figure of 43% should be interpreted as an illustration rather than an exact value or even a best estimate. The research has been published today in Science.
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0623111329.htm

    I wouldn't mind us beating this thing with a combination of nature (some being naturally immune) and social will (wearing masks, careful behavior, etc) and see the pharmaceutical companies eat .

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    Scientists develop plasma shot that could prevent coronavirus,

    but say feds and makers won’t act



    https://ktla.com/news/coronavirus/sc...kers-wont-act/

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    Flu season this year. Flu Vax will be 100 percent effective, covid cases set new daily records.

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    Flu season this year. Flu Vax will be 100 percent effective, covid cases set new daily records.
    tholdren predicts?

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    U.S. Bets On Small, Untested Company to Deliver COVID Vaccine



    As part of its strategy to administer the vaccine as quickly as possible, the Trump administration has agreed to

    invest more than half a billion in tax dollars

    in
    ApiJect Systems America, a young company whose

    injector is not approved by federal health authorities and

    that hasn’t yet set up a factory to manufacture the devices.

    Trump administration officials would not say why they are investing so heavily in ApiJect’s technology. kickbacks!

    ApiJect received a no-bid contract

    $138 million to produce 100 million

    another $456 million as part of a public-private partnership contract to bring online several new factories to make another 500 million devices


    These amounts are more than double the per-syringe cost the government is paying other companies for the work.

    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/a...content=19xxxx


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    Brett Giroir, Trump’s testing czar, was forced out of a job developing vaccine projects. Now he’s on the hot seat.

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    Perhaps the treatment could come from our own bodies. Nothing is proven yet, but a silver lining.



    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0389-z

    Conclusion: Some people (an unknown percentage thus far) might be naturally immune to Covid due to prior infections of common cold coronaviruses. Let's say it's 20 percent of the population. Depending on how we adjust our behavior to lower the herd immunity threshold, we could achieve herd immunity at around 40 percent of the population infected (in theory), so that means only 20 percent of the population would have to be infected. Covid tracking estimates our true infected rate at 7.3%. https://covid19-projections.com/us



    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0623111329.htm

    I wouldn't mind us beating this thing with a combination of nature (some being naturally immune) and social will (wearing masks, careful behavior, etc) and see the pharmaceutical companies eat .


    Credit to DarrinS for finding the vid

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    I don't give a about immunity, and certainly don't want to test on myself

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...v59v7hVJxL_ECM

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    Perhaps the treatment could come from our own bodies. Nothing is proven yet, but a silver lining.



    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-0389-z

    Conclusion: Some people (an unknown percentage thus far) might be naturally immune to Covid due to prior infections of common cold coronaviruses. Let's say it's 20 percent of the population. Depending on how we adjust our behavior to lower the herd immunity threshold, we could achieve herd immunity at around 40 percent of the population infected (in theory), so that means only 20 percent of the population would have to be infected. Covid tracking estimates our true infected rate at 7.3%. https://covid19-projections.com/us



    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0623111329.htm

    I wouldn't mind us beating this thing with a combination of nature (some being naturally immune) and social will (wearing masks, careful behavior, etc) and see the pharmaceutical companies eat .
    Touches on one of the studies mentioned above and an interesting read.


    The original article was published in the Swiss magazine Weltwoche (World Week) on June 10th. The author, Beda M Stadler is the former director of the Ins ute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and professor emeritus. Stadler is an important medical professional in Switzerland, he also likes to use provoking language, which should not deter you from the extremely important points he makes.

    https://medium.com/@vernunftundricht...g-fce6db5ba809

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    Touches on one of the studies mentioned above and an interesting read.


    The original article was published in the Swiss magazine Weltwoche (World Week) on June 10th. The author, Beda M Stadler is the former director of the Ins ute for Immunology at the University of Bern, a biologist and professor emeritus. Stadler is an important medical professional in Switzerland, he also likes to use provoking language, which should not deter you from the extremely important points he makes.

    https://medium.com/@vernunftundricht...g-fce6db5ba809
    Interesting read and certainly supportive of the fact that there may be greater natural immunity than originally thought (maybe even closer to the levels that we’d need for herd immunity). But his central proposition that this is just a cold and dies out in the summer is certainly not true of what’s going on in the US.

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    Interesting read and certainly supportive of the fact that there may be greater natural immunity than originally thought (maybe even closer to the levels that we’d need for herd immunity). But his central proposition that this is just a cold and dies out in the summer is certainly not true of what’s going on in the US.
    True, but he never suggests that globally. I’ve also seen some interesting studies comparing countries getting hit hardest now and their previous influenza season (light) vs countries not being hit hard and their previous influenza season (hard).

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    Credit to DarrinS for finding the vid
    This would be excellent news, but it's really pure speculation for now.

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    This would be excellent news, but it's really pure speculation for now.
    Agreed. Good news is the doc referenced studies when he was talking about immunity so it’s not completely out of thin air. But we’re just gonna have to wait and see for now.

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    True, but he never suggests that globally. I’ve also seen some interesting studies comparing countries getting hit hardest now and their previous influenza season (light) vs countries not being hit hard and their previous influenza season (hard).
    You remember how you also saw studies that showed hydroxychloroquine worked well as a prophylactic? That was neat.

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    You remember how you also saw studies that showed hydroxychloroquine worked well as a prophylactic? That was neat.
    You remember when you posted the Vox article with the one doctor and his one patient and then declared herd immunity might not happen? That was neat.

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    You remember when you posted the Vox article with the one doctor and his one patient and then declared herd immunity might not happen? That was neat.
    One of those two things has been neatly debunked.

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    One of those two things has been neatly debunked.
    neatly debunked

    There is one exception. Many researchers agree that a good case can be made for continuing to test whether hydroxychloroquine can prevent infection if given to people just in case they get exposed to the virus, for instance on the job at a hospital—a strategy called pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP). “You have a much better chance of preventing something with a weak drug than you have of curing a fully established infection,” says White, who runs one of the largest PrEP trials. He notes that doxycycline, an antibiotic, has long been used in malaria prophylaxis. “We would never treat anybody with it, it’s too weak. But it’s a very good prophylactic.”

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...event-covid-19

    Tell us more about your one doctor and his one patient.

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    neatly debunked

    There is one exception. Many researchers agree that a good case can be made for continuing to test whether hydroxychloroquine can prevent infection if given to people just in case they get exposed to the virus, for instance on the job at a hospital—a strategy called pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP). “You have a much better chance of preventing something with a weak drug than you have of curing a fully established infection,” says White, who runs one of the largest PrEP trials. He notes that doxycycline, an antibiotic, has long been used in malaria prophylaxis. “We would never treat anybody with it, it’s too weak. But it’s a very good prophylactic.”

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020...event-covid-19

    Tell us more about your one doctor and his one patient.
    Lol leaving out the le of your article:

    "Three big studies dim hopes that hydroxychloroquine can treat or prevent COVID-19"

    tsa

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    And do you really need more links to find out that people have gotten covid twice? It's really not hard to find

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    Lol leaving out the le of your article:

    "Three big studies dim hopes that hydroxychloroquine can treat or prevent COVID-19"

    tsa
    It’s an inaccurate le. If you’d read the article you’d know that. Show me in each of the three studies where they say hydroxychloroquine can’t prevent infection if given to people just in case they get exposed to the virus.

    You remember how you also saw studies that showed hydroxychloroquine worked well as a prophylactic? That was neat.
    There is one exception. Many researchers agree that a good case can be made for continuing to test whether hydroxychloroquine can prevent infection if given to people just in case they get exposed to the virus, for instance on the job at a hospital—a strategy called pre-exposure prophylaxis (PrEP). “You have a much better chance of preventing something with a weak drug than you have of curing a fully established infection,” says White, who runs one of the largest PrEP trials. He notes that doxycycline, an antibiotic, has long been used in malaria prophylaxis. “We would never treat anybody with it, it’s too weak. But it’s a very good prophylactic.”
    lol you

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