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    BREAKING NEWS ALERT

    The first COVID-19 vaccine tested in the US

    revved up people’s immune systems just the way scientists had hoped,

    researchers reported Tuesday —

    as the shots are poised to begin key final testing.

    “No matter how you slice this, this is good news,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the US government’s top infectious disease expert.

    The experimental vaccine,

    developed by Fauci’s colleagues at the National Ins utes of Health and Cambridge-based Moderna Inc.,

    will start its most important step around July 27:

    A 30,000-person study to prove if the shots really are strong enough to protect against the coronavirus.

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    trials on hydroxychloroquine as a prophylaxis are still being run you ing dummy Nothing has been neatly debunked.
    While it's true that some studies on hydroxychloroquine use as a prophylactic are still ongoing, we do have studies that have concluded it's useless as a prophylactic.

    ie:
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638
    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04304053

    In other words, we're still waiting for one that says it works.

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    trump was calling it a miracle cure months ago

    just because there are still trials ongoing to determine whether or not it is useful/effective treatment doesnt make his comments any less irresponsible

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    It’s not like his other go-to of retweeting Alex Berenson/Clay Travis is any better tbh
    My favorite are the gummi re-tweets

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    While it's true that some studies on hydroxychloroquine use as a prophylactic are still ongoing, we do have studies that have concluded it's useless as a prophylactic.

    ie:
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638
    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04304053

    In other words, we're still waiting for one that says it works.
    I'm sure tsa can dig one up from an obscure part of the alt right internets for you that was concluded before May 5th

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    From Boston Globe email

    BREAKING NEWS ALERT

    The first COVID-19 vaccine tested in the US

    revved up people’s immune systems just the way scientists had hoped,

    researchers reported Tuesday —

    as the shots are poised to begin key final testing.

    “No matter how you slice this, this is good news,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the US government’s top infectious disease expert.

    The experimental vaccine,

    developed by Fauci’s colleagues at the National Ins utes of Health and Cambridge-based Moderna Inc.,

    will start its most important step around July 27:

    A 30,000-person study to prove if the shots really are strong enough to protect against the coronavirus.
    Great news being lauded by a credible source (Fauci).

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    Amazing how well Fauci does when Trump puts the clamps on him.

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    Amazing how well Fauci does when Trump puts the clamps on him.
    Lol what does that even mean

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    While it's true that some studies on hydroxychloroquine use as a prophylactic are still ongoing, we do have studies that have concluded it's useless as a prophylactic.

    ie:
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638
    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04304053

    In other words, we're still waiting for one that says it works.

    Does that mean 'rona' is on condems?

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    While it's true that some studies on hydroxychloroquine use as a prophylactic are still ongoing, we do have studies that have concluded it's useless as a prophylactic.

    ie:
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2016638
    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04304053

    In other words, we're still waiting for one that says it works.
    Both studies post exposure. Thanks for giving Blake a glimmer of light and then unintentionally ting on him

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    I'm sure tsa can dig one up from an obscure part of the alt right internets for you that was concluded before May 5th
    Crawling up under Nono’s cheeks and opening det mouth

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    It’s not like his other go-to of retweeting Alex Berenson/Clay Travis is any better tbh
    Lot of pain and suffering on his head, but at least he'll get book sales out of it.

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    And these rockheaded wingnuts STILL keep falling for the CDC data reporting.


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    Both studies post exposure. Thanks for giving Blake a glimmer of light and then unintentionally ting on him
    Well, what you said was:

    trials on hydroxychloroquine as a prophylaxis are still being run you ing dummy Nothing has been neatly debunked.
    Then you added the PrEP part. But if you're limiting to pre-exposure, then yes, it's still ongoing (I believe it's this one: https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04328467)

    Don't care who shat on who, tbh, don't have a horse in that race.

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    Both studies post exposure. Thanks for giving Blake a glimmer of light and then unintentionally ting on him
    Tsa still wants to die on hydroxychloroquine hill.

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    Why lopinavir and hydroxychloroquine do not work on COVID-19


    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0710112108.htm

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    Hydroxychloroquine-COVID-19 study did not meet publishing society’s “expected standard”

    https://retractionwatch.com/2020/04/...cted-standard/

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    All the Ways the Influential Hydroxychloroquine Study Was Crap

    The new post-publication peer review highlights a variety of serious flaws in the study and concludes that the authors were “fully irresponsible” in how they presented their findings.

    other scientists began to raise questions about the study, how it was carried out, and the scientists who conducted it, particularly the senior author, a physician and microbiologist named Didier Raoult.

    he and his lab were also previously accused of glaring errors and misconduct in their published work, with one episode leading to a year-long ban from a prominent microbiology journal.

    the evidence that hydroxychloroquine could help with covid-19, particularly severe cases, has largely (but not entirely) been lacking.

    countries such as the U.S. have stopped recommending its use.

    one of Raoult’s co-authors, Jean-Marc Rolain, was also the editor-in-chief of the journal where it was published.

    condemns the decision by

    Raoult’s team to exclude from the study’s final results six patients who took hydroxychloroquine, including four whose condition worsened, one of whom eventually died

    during the study period (none in the control group died).

    There were also other inconsistencies, such as

    supplemental material mentioning that a number of asymptomatic patients were included for study

    while the study’s actual language claimed that it was an examination of hospitalized patients

    (people without symptoms are unlikely to have been hospitalized for covid-19).

    These and other problems with the data were enough to make the study “nearly if not completely uninformative,”

    Another new paper, similarly criticizes the French study, noting that “this trial has several major methodological issues, including the design, outcome measure and the statistical analyses.”

    Trump and members of his administration are pushing for the Food Drug Administration to once again authorize the drug as an emergency treatment for covid-19, following a quickly criticized study (and non-clinical trial) published last week that found some evidence for its benefit.

    https://gizmodo.com/all-the-ways-the...ign=2020-07-15

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    The Coronavirus and the Right’s Scientific Counterrevolution

    How a new class of outsider experts

    is exploiting ins utional failures and destabilizing knowledge

    the crisis displays conservatives’ long-standing “antipathy to science,” owing to “populist distrust of experts, religious rejection of information that undermines biblical literalism and efforts by giant corporations to evade regulation.”

    the president and his allies to the virus is rather their embrace of scientific expertise of a sort.

    To counter the model that claimed more than two million Americans might die, skeptics advanced contrary models claiming tolls vastly lower.

    Stanford epidemiologist John Ioannidis advanced a series of studies claiming that the real rate might be lower than the roughly 0.1 percent that accompanies the seasonal flu.

    it is a story of fracture—of conflict and confusion, of experts earning mistrust, of each side cultivating its own class of experts to own the other’s.

    It is also a perverse story of how a group of self-styled truth-telling outsiders

    turned science’s mythology against its ins utions,

    warping it from a tool to fight the virus

    into a tool to attack the establishment.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/1580...nterrevolution



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    Chuck Schumer Jan 31, 2020 - President Trump restricted travel from China due to the Chinese corona virus and when he did, Chuck Schumer criticized the president for over reacting- February 24, 2020 - Speaker Nancy Pelosi Visits San Francisco Chinatown To Show Support against Trump plan to slow Coronavirus and told everyone to come on down to Chinatown, arm and arm. This was of course due to Trump stopping flights from infected areas on January 31st.
    9 January - The WHO says the infection is caused by a new type of coronavirus
    10 January - China shares the genetic code of the new virus
    11 January - Scientists start working on a vaccine - and the first death confirmed
    13 January - Virus spreads abroad for the first time, with a case in Thailand
    14 January - The WHO "No clear Evidence of Person to Person contact of Corona virus The Who Lied
    15 January - "Trump Signs 'Phase 1' China Trade Deal, But Most Tariffs Remain In Place" and Pelosi finally sends Articles of Impeachment to the Senate When first US Victim gets back to the states
    23 January - the central government of China imposed a lock down in Wuhan
    January 31 Trump announced China Travel Restrictions and the UK left the EU at 11 p.m. GMT on 31 January 2020
    February 4, 2020,The 2020 State of the Union Address was given by the 45th President of the United States, Donald Trump
    February 5, 2020 Trump was Acquitted
    February 7 - The WHO "Mask Won't protect You from the Corona virus
    February 19th the Market began the sell off.
    February 24, 2020 - Speaker Nancy Pelosi calling Trump a xenophobe and tells her people in San Francisco to gather together and all meet in China town. Nancy Pelosi wanted to show that Trump is over reacting.
    March 2, 2020 - Governor John Bel Edwards gives coronavirus update to Press Club of Baton Rouge
    March 11, 2020 - Bill de Blasio - Confronting the Coronavirus Outbreak in New York City | The Daily Show
    March 23 - The Who "Treating the Corona virus with Hydroxychloroquine could cause a world shortage" this was a Lie.
    April 1 - The Who "Wearing a mask won't protect you" repeated Lie.

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    Nice write up on the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine. Really positive stuff in here.

    Covid Vaccine Front-Runner Is Months Ahead of Her Compe ion - Bloomberg Businessweek
    https://apple.news/ATZFB_cswQoG-ZsTsrDPWmQ

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    Why are people stanning hydroxychloroquine? If it's efficacious in some cir stances, great. But choosing that hill to die on when there are other more promising treatments is beyond me.

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    From Boston Globe email

    BREAKING NEWS ALERT

    The first COVID-19 vaccine tested in the US

    revved up people’s immune systems just the way scientists had hoped,

    researchers reported Tuesday —

    as the shots are poised to begin key final testing.

    “No matter how you slice this, this is good news,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, the US government’s top infectious disease expert.

    The experimental vaccine,

    developed by Fauci’s colleagues at the National Ins utes of Health and Cambridge-based Moderna Inc.,

    will start its most important step around July 27:

    A 30,000-person study to prove if the shots really are strong enough to protect against the coronavirus.
    BigPharma good now. Pick a lane.

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    Why are people stanning hydroxychloroquine? If it's efficacious in some cir stances, great. But choosing that hill to die on when there are other more promising treatments is beyond me.
    Trump

    That's it. All they care about is paying some sort of fealty to him in a fashion. You probably already know it, but the hardcore segment of his base basically worships him. Not even hyperbole. It's literal worship.

    That’s why he loves Trump: because he believes God has chosen Trump for this hour. That which Trump’s critics see as crude and divisive, Pastor Sean takes as proof of his anointing. He is God’s champion, a fighter, a “counterpuncher.” All of which has put Trump’s life in danger, says Pastor Sean. “He knows too much.”
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-is-the-gospel

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    Trump

    That's it. All they care about is paying some sort of fealty to him in a fashion. You probably already know it, but the hardcore segment of his base basically worships him. Not even hyperbole. It's literal worship.



    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-is-the-gospel
    Disagree. Trump jumped on hydroxychloroquine without probably knowing anything about it. But just because King Doofus endorses it, it doesn't mean it can't be effective.


    https://texasscorecard.com/state/phy...irus-medicine/

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