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    Right now it’s simple math. It can certainly backfire or not, we’ll see in the next few months.
    Thinking it's simple math and extrapolating how long it will take to vaccinate the population is what makes it a stupid narrative. Right now they are being very selective in who gets the vaccine. That means identifying the people and then scheduling a time for the vaccination. Once enough doses are available for widespread vaccinations to start the pace will pick up.

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    The Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine has 3 key advantages despite lower efficacy rating

    It also comes with a few key logistical advantages that could be a game-changer.

    It's
    cheap to produce, and

    unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine
    doesn't require ultra-cold temperatures for storage, which will make vaccine distribution easier, especially to rural communities.

    Finally, the gap between the first and second dose of the vaccine can be
    as long as 12 weeks,

    which means more people in the U.K. can receive an initial dose at an earlier stage, giving them some form of protection before the second.

    https://theweek.com/speedreads/95785...-efficacy-rate


    It's 100% effective in preventing severe illness and hospitalization. Hopefully crooked Fauci and company don't delay it's approval here.

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    Monoclonal antibody treatments sitting on shelves unused

    Damn shame

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...used-hospitals

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    Monoclonal antibody treatments sitting on shelves unused

    Damn shame

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...used-hospitals
    CVS shelves.

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    Monoclonal antibody treatments sitting on shelves unused

    Damn shame

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...used-hospitals
    Yeah my wife has been sending people. Takes up a lot of her time talking to the patients about what the treatment is and undoing what they have been told by er & urgent care docs who are sending them home with ivermectin, steriods, and a grab bag of other instead of sending them for antibody infusion. She's pretty pissed about it because these people are losing days after diagnosis which lowers the efficacy of the antibodies.

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    One thing that concerns me is they don't know for sure how long the vaccine lasts. So that one might have to get another vaccine in a year.
    But are there any side effects related to getting two different types of vaccines? So the first year, it might be the Pfizer vaccine but the next year, the Moderna. Or Astra Zeneca or whatever.
    They couldn't possibly have figured out by now if there are any associated issues in that situation.

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    Yeah my wife has been sending people. Takes up a lot of her time talking to the patients about what the treatment is and undoing what they have been told by er & urgent care docs who are sending them home with ivermectin, steriods, and a grab bag of other instead of sending them for antibody infusion. She's pretty pissed about it because these people are losing days after diagnosis which lowers the efficacy of the antibodies.
    Good to hear that she is getting her patients the treatment.

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    Woke 70 year olds.


    Distribution is up to the states.

    Florida fail after Trump fail.
    The only demo that needs the vax is 65 plus. The end. Worst states in us are lockdown and mask mandated, just like countries. Its a virus. Its seasonal. It is only a real danger to those already old and severely ill

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    The only demo that needs the vax is 65 plus. The end.
    Where did you get your MPH?

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    One thing that concerns me is they don't know for sure how long the vaccine lasts. So that one might have to get another vaccine in a year.
    But are there any side effects related to getting two different types of vaccines? So the first year, it might be the Pfizer vaccine but the next year, the Moderna. Or Astra Zeneca or whatever.
    They couldn't possibly have figured out by now if there are any associated issues in that situation.
    The guys on TWiV think it's a pretty good guess that the mRNA vaccines will need a boost every 3 years. They're making an educated guess but still a guess. They seem to think the viral vector vaccines like Astrazeneca's will not provide protection for quite as long as the mRNA ones.

    I don't understand what the concern is with possibly needing a booster shot somewhere down the road is or why people would not get vaccinated because they might need a booster shot someday.

    Pretty simple way of looking at it is you are going to get infected repeatedly for the rest of your life or you can get vaccinated repeatedly for the rest of your life so you can choose the vaccine or the virus.

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    Where did you get your MPH?
    Credentialism? Lol. Mph takes how many stats classes? How many of health department employees have mph? Not even all states have health department directors with an mph.


    Not that it even matters.


    Dumb argument considering epidemiologists disagree on severity of disease. You are truly low.level

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    Credentialism? Lol. Mph takes how many stats classes? How many of health department employees have mph? Not even all states have health department directors with an mph.


    Not that it even matters.


    Dumb argument considering epidemiologists disagree on severity of disease. You are truly low.level
    Where did you get your MD?

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    Good to hear that she is getting her patients the treatment.
    She had one last week diagnosed on Sunday who was an entire checklist of high risk factors over 65, black, diabetic, hypertension, etc. When she talked to her on Monday the person didn't want the treatment because covid is a hoax. She called her on Wednesday and the person was feeling worse but still not willing to get the treatment. So she told told them if you change your mind by 4pm let me know but after that I'm off until Monday and by then you won't qualify for treatment anymore. Lady called back like 15 minutes later, okay I'll go get it lol

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    Credentialism? Lol. Mph takes how many stats classes? How many of health department employees have mph? Not even all states have health department directors with an mph.


    Not that it even matters.


    Dumb argument considering epidemiologists disagree on severity of disease. You are truly low.level
    Lolooooooooooloooloolo


    Credentialism > logic.


    Bwahahahahahahahahhahahahahah

    Chumpdump low level

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    The guys on TWiV think it's a pretty good guess that the mRNA vaccines will need a boost every 3 years. They're making an educated guess but still a guess. They seem to think the viral vector vaccines like Astrazeneca's will not provide protection for quite as long as the mRNA ones.

    I don't understand what the concern is with possibly needing a booster shot somewhere down the road is or why people would not get vaccinated because they might need a booster shot someday.

    Pretty simple way of looking at it is you are going to get infected repeatedly for the rest of your life or you can get vaccinated repeatedly for the rest of your life so you can choose the vaccine or the virus.
    My concern was regarding side effects of getting one type of vaccine (mRNA) and then going back the next year and getting a different type from a different manufacturer.

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    My concern was regarding side effects of getting one type of vaccine (mRNA) and then going back the next year and getting a different type from a different manufacturer.
    Why wouldn't your concern be that an mrna vax, this one, is not proven to prevent the spread of covid or get covid?


    Pretty dumb to take if you're under 60.

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    Why wouldn't your concern be that an mrna vax, this one, is not proven to prevent the spread of covid or get covid?


    Pretty dumb to take if you're under 60.
    I also didn't list my concern with the Zeke contract.
    Or the irregular mole on my calf.
    Or that I'm having trouble finding a comfortable shoe.

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    My concern was regarding side effects of getting one type of vaccine (mRNA) and then going back the next year and getting a different type from a different manufacturer.
    Shouldn't make a difference on the mRNA's because it will be the same vaccine. Pfizer & Moderna are using the same mRNA, only difference is their lipid carrier. The viral vector vaccines they will have to change the vector every year because you will have antibodies to the vector which will make the vaccine ineffective. So for example, astrazenca uses a chimpazee adenovirus to carry the coronavirus e so next time around they have to use a different adenovirus (or something) because you will be immune to the chimpanzee virus.

    Mixing/matching vaccines over time won't really make a difference because they all are targeting immunity to only the e protein. So they're doing the same thing just in a different manner. That's just for these first vaccines. When/if the live attenuated virus vaccines come out it may matter but personally I wouldn't get an attenuated vaccine until there's a bunch more data. I think the sinovac vaccine is a killed whole virus, I'd be hesitant about that one too.

    I think the mRNA vaccines are going to rule the day eventually, at least for covid. They are so easy to change if the coronavirus e changes. All they have to do is change the mRNA but the platform doesn't change so it won't need as much testing.

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    I also didn't list my concern with the Zeke contract.
    Or the irregular mole on my calf.
    Or that I'm having trouble finding a comfortable shoe.
    The mole is probably nothing. Best to just let it grow instead of getting it checked out. You should be fine.

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    The mole is probably nothing. Best to just let it grow instead of getting it checked out. You should be fine.
    Thanks. That's what I've been doing. What about the Zeke contract?

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    Thanks. That's what I've been doing. What about the Zeke contract?
    I don't know what that is. Probably fine though, wait and see approach also recommended.

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    Thanks. That's what I've been doing. What about the Zeke contract?
    Less concerning than a mrna vax that hasn't proven to do a thing and been given mainly to the most not at risk age groups after 20 less

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    Less concerning than a mrna vax that hasn't proven to do a thing and been given mainly to the most not at risk age groups after 20 less
    Well...as of now, I'm not scheduled to get a vax. So the Zeke contract is pretty concerning to me. He's likely peaked already and they haven't even started paying him on his new deal.

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    Well...as of now, I'm not scheduled to get a vax. So the Zeke contract is pretty concerning to me. He's likely peaked already and they haven't even started paying him on his new deal.
    Good

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    How is that good? They shouldn't have rewarded him 2 years in advance. Now they're stuck with him.

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