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    Inspired by a comment by Mid in another thread ...

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.liv...d19-trial.html

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biz...nding.amp.html

    Regeneronís treatment may be available as early as next month, though itís a limited supply

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    Yeah but is there a way to inject disinfectants

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    I couldn't get in before the "orange man bad" tangent. Cuck beat me here.

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    Yeah but is there a way to inject disinfectants
    A useful thread started, but then this ^

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    I am hopeful.
    We can get this thing.

    We have a number of groups approaching this in different ways so it could get confusing, but the stuff I have seen is very exciting.
    Some have figured out a way to mass produce this in theory. The testing will be the key imo.

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    If the FDA approves the drug at the end of Phase 3 trials, REGN-COV2 would then move on to the last phase called Phase 4, during which the drug could enter widespread use and its short- and long-term effects would be monitored in thousands of patients.
    Looks like they’re just going to rush through phase 4 and release it to the public and pray something happens. Ouch

    Bold strategy. But I guess if you give it to the sickest, they wouldn’t care.

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    Did you read anything on how they plan to acquire patients to test?

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    The testing will be the key imo.
    of course.

    Testing is the consumer of weeks, testing requires 20K+ "victims" to see if there are any short term side effects or deaths. Any long term side effects will remain well into 2021.

    We know that BigPharma sells new products with the public as beta testers.

    After a few 100K suffer or die, BigPharma pays $10Bs of penalties, and keeps on working the same way, tests its themselves, publishing only the benefits, while hiding the negatives.

    Totally corrupt, and pricing unregulated, unique among industrial countries.

    Trash will push FDA sycophants hard to approve any , so he can say "My vaccine works, vote for me"


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    Looks like they’re just going to rush through phase 4 and release it to the public and pray something happens. Ouch

    Bold strategy. But I guess if you give it to the sickest, they wouldn’t care.
    It's just a dual antibody tail so probably the biggest risk is antibody attenuated enhancement which I would think they have already verified they aren't using non-neutralizing antibodies.

    Why a dual antibody tail derived from genetically altered mice with human immune systems would be preferred over convalescent plasma with antibodies from actual humans I do not know. Money is always a safe guess.

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    It's just a dual antibody tail so probably the biggest risk is antibody attenuated enhancement which I would think they have already verified they aren't using non-neutralizing antibodies.

    Why a dual antibody tail derived from genetically altered mice with human immune systems would be preferred over convalescent plasma with antibodies from actual humans I do not know. Money is always a safe guess.
    they used the same approach with Ebola

    I donít think it has been approved yet

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    of course.

    Testing is the consumer of weeks, testing requires 20K+ "victims" to see if there are any short term side effects or deaths. Any long term side effects will remain well into 2021.

    We know that BigPharma sells new products with the public as beta testers.

    After a few 100K suffer or die, BigPharma pays $10Bs of penalties, and keeps on working the same way, tests its themselves, publishing only the benefits, while hiding the negatives.

    Totally corrupt, and pricing unregulated, unique among industrial countries.

    Trash will push FDA sycophants hard to approve any , so he can say "My vaccine works, vote for me"

    there is also a lot of good stuff that has been held up for very minor reasons did you look that up?

    there is always money involved.

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    of course.

    Testing is the consumer of weeks, testing requires 20K+ "victims" to see if there are any short term side effects or deaths. Any long term side effects will remain well into 2021.

    We know that BigPharma sells new products with the public as beta testers.

    After a few 100K suffer or die, BigPharma pays $10Bs of penalties, and keeps on working the same way, tests its themselves, publishing only the benefits, while hiding the negatives.

    Totally corrupt, and pricing unregulated, unique among industrial countries.

    Trash will push FDA sycophants hard to approve any , so he can say "My vaccine works, vote for me"

    Are you taking a statin yet like your Doctor told you?

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    there is also a lot of good stuff that has been held up for very minor reasons did you look that up?

    there is always money involved.
    I get a lot of medical/science feeds, showing various promising projects, but I know, eg I, will not get a vaccine until next year due to the delay of exhaustive testing, followed by production (medical glass still in shortage?),

    Distribution, and of course ING FOR-PROFIT/FOR-INVESTORS PRICING which will be exorbitant and unavailable to the uninsured.

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    I couldn't get in before the "orange man bad" tangent. Cuck beat me here.
    A useful thread started, but then this ^
    Excellent contributions to this thread. Unmasked orange man appreciates your shield activation.

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    Spurtacular look at Chumpettes desperately waiting and begging for government to come inject them. Idiots.

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    Spurtacular look at Chumpettes desperately waiting and begging for government to come inject them. Idiots.
    Trump should put a cape on for them.

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    I get a lot of medical/science feeds, showing various promising projects, but I know, eg I, will not get a vaccine until next year due to the delay of exhaustive testing, followed by production (medical glass still in shortage?),

    Distribution, and of course ING FOR-PROFIT/FOR-INVESTORS PRICING which will be exorbitant and unavailable to the uninsured.
    Vaccine will probably be provided all on tax payer dime at an exorbitant price

    Have to actually have a vaccine that works first and that's not a given at this point.

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    Good thread. Eager to see new developments both on vaccines and treatments.

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    Good thread. Eager to see new developments both on vaccines and treatments.
    Need study on hydroxychloroquine at safe dose started within 48 hours first symptoms. It works or it doesn't but we still can't get a study using it the only way that it might work.

    Also need the same study on remdesivir inhalable if they show that it can be taken by inhalation. That would be promising since IV remdesivir has some benefit to severely ill so if they can get it into a form that's practical for general use it would be great.

    Those are the only two I know of that have the potential to be the TamiFlu analog for Covid-19

    I'm not hopeful on a vaccine anytime soon.

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    Don't even need to be a cure or immunity. Something that makes a solid dent on the virus' ability to cause damage and death, especially on people at risk could be the ticket.

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    Don't even need to be a cure or immunity. Something that makes a solid dent on the virus' ability to cause damage and death, especially on people at risk could be the ticket.
    The current approach to dealing with COVID-19 carries significant risks to overall population health and threatens to increase inequities across the country. Aiming to prevent or contain every case of COVID-19 is simply no longer sustainable at this stage in the pandemic. We need to accept that COVID-19 will be with us for some time and to find ways to deal with it.



    The current and proposed measures for reopening will continue to disproportionately impact lower income groups, Black and other racialized groups, recent immigrants to Canada, Indigenous peoples and other populations. And it risks significantly harming our children, particularly the very young, by affecting their development, with life-long consequences in terms of education, skills development, income and overall health.

    Canada must work to minimize the impact of COVID-19 by using measures that are practical, effective and compatible with our values and sense of social justice. We need to focus on preventing deaths and serious illness by protecting the vulnerable while enabling society to function and thrive.



    Elimination of COVID-19 is not a practical objective for Canada until we have a vaccine. While there is hope for a vaccine to be developed soon, we must be realistic about the time it will actually take to develop and evaluate it and then deliver an immunization campaign covering the entire population. We cannot sustain universal control measures indefinitely.



    We need to accept that there will be cases and outbreaks of COVID-19. We need localized control measures that are risk-based. We should consistently reassess quarantine and isolation periods, recommendations for physical distancing and non-medical masks, and travel restrictions based on current best evidence and levels of risk.

    At the same time we must improve infection prevention and control in long-term care and congregate living settings. We should provide support for people living in the community who need to or choose to isolate when the disease is active, as well as those who have been adversely affected by COVID-19, or the consequences of the public health measures.

    Canadians have developed a fear of COVID-19. Going forward, they have to be supported in understanding their true level of risk, and learning how to deal with this disease, while getting on with their lives – back to work, back to school, and back to healthy lives and vibrant, active communities across this country.

    We acknowledge the heroic work that has been done in recent months by many across all levels of government and the public and private sector, and the sacrifices that Canadians have made to get to this stage. As we look forward, Canada must balance its response to COVID-19.

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    Don't even need to be a cure or immunity. Something that makes a solid dent on the virus' ability to cause damage and death, especially on people at risk could be the ticket.
    Disagree.

    Most of us will either be symptomless or have medium symptoms which are no joke. Not to mention unknowns like possible neuro damage.

    Doubt there will be quick theufapeutics for that. So most of us will be on the same boat as now. Would not risk it on unecessary things like going to a bar or crowded restaurants, etc

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    Trump should put a cape on for them.
    like you have never been vaccinated.

    where did you go to school, in Somalia?

    idiot....

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    Disagree.

    Most of us will either be symptomless or have medium symptoms which are no joke. Not to mention unknowns like possible neuro damage.

    Doubt there will be quick theufapeutics for that. So most of us will be on the same boat as now. Would not risk it on unecessary things like going to a bar or crowded restaurants, etc
    That's not true. Some treatments, like Regeneron's antibody tail, are both preventative and therapeutic.

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