Coronavirus treatments and vaccines thread

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Experts Predict What Life Will Be Like After A COVID-19 Vaccine Arrives

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/life-...APPLENEWS00001

[Winehole23]

I always expected bio-nano-tech would offer solutions to all kinds of human diseases.

But how can they be sure the nano-bodies for C19 es don't lock into someplace else, like cross blood-brain barrier, hormonal disruption?

And what about dosage?

The effective dose is said to be "small" in the article, but I have no idea what that means. I would imagine clinical trials will take a year or two, unless political pressure shortens the process.

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Trump Announces Deal With Moderna for 100 Million Doses of Coronavirus Vaccine


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...id-19-vaccine/

[Winehole23]

Trump Announces Deal With Moderna for 100 Million Doses of Coronavirus Vaccine


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/...id-19-vaccine/

Hope they work and will be safe.

[Winehole23]

monoclonal antibodies

Clinical trials involving a pair of antibodies developed by Regeneron Pharmaceuticals will read out early results in September. A separate effort from Eli Lilly could yield data later in the fall.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/08/11/...l-they-matter/

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Hope they work and will be safe.

deal? meaning Trash is buying 100M to give away free?

or telling Moderna to ramp up for 100M to SELL to us targets for $30?

[Winehole23]

deal? meaning Trash is buying 100M to give away free?

or telling Moderna to ramp up for 100M to SELL to us targets for $30?

Dunno, I'd pay 30 bucks for a vaccine that works. Absolutely the cost should be waived for anyone who can't afford it.

Sure, there's probably a grift in there somewhere, but if what results is an effective vaccine it will have been worth it.

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I think it was to Moderna that Trash gave $400M for research w/o any diktat on retail price.

Probably same with $Bs Trash has hosed at other BigPharma trying to get a vaccine to announce before the election. Trash doesn't give the tiniest about saving lives, only saving his reelection

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34 Attorneys General Want Gilead’s Pharma Patent Monopoly on COVID Treatment Remdesivir Busted


https://buzzflash.com/articles/34-attorneys-general-call-to-bust-gileads-pharma-monopoly-on-covid-treatment-remdesivir

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New Nanobodies Block Coronavirus Infection,

Locks es Into 'Inactive' Mode

The preventative nanobodies are even robust enough to become a widely-deployed coronavirus aerosol.

https://interestingengineering.com/new-nanobodies-block-coronavirus-infection-locks- es-into-inactive-mode

[pgardn]

Experts Predict What Life Will Be Like After A COVID-19 Vaccine Arrives

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/life-...APPLENEWS00001

The article was interesting but completely whiffed on how drugs other that vaccines may be huge in controlling the symptoms.
And The findings in the ICUs as simple as how to make patients lie on the beds while in care has been very useful as well. Expect a lot more of both.

[pgardn]

New Nanobodies Block Coronavirus Infection,

Locks es Into 'Inactive' Mode

The preventative nanobodies are even robust enough to become a widely-deployed coronavirus aerosol.

https://interestingengineering.com/new-nanobodies-block-coronavirus-infection-locks- es-into-inactive-mode

And possibly, new disinfectants... cool.

[ChumpDumper]

I guess there is a measure of self interest here, but props to this 72 year old for walking the walk.

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The article was interesting but completely whiffed on how drugs other that vaccines may be huge in controlling the symptoms.
And The findings in the ICUs as simple as how to make patients lie on the beds while in care has been very useful as well. Expect a lot more of both.

survivors from hospitals are pretty ed up for weeks, months, years, forever

true even for non-hospitalized survivors

controlling the symptoms is a band-aid that may not limit the damage

about 40 asymptomatic people from a cruise ship had C19 lung damage.

[pgardn]

I always expected bio-nano-tech would offer solutions to all kinds of human diseases.

But how can they be sure the nano-bodies for C19 es don't lock into someplace else, like cross blood-brain barrier, hormonal disruption?

And what about dosage?

Long way to go.
And we dont unless we see obvious side effects.

Eventually I would expect we have a giant library of all the 3-d structure shape of major biomolecules and drugs, cell surface proteins and the type of environment within the 3-d spot, acidic, basic, hydrophilic, hydrophobic.

Then we could run a computer match to see which fit really well and which dont. Which bind temporarily and leave, which get stuck for longer periods...
My hopeful guess.

[pgardn]

survivors from hospitals are pretty ed up for weeks, months, years, forever

true even for non-hospitalized survivors

controlling the symptoms is a band-aid they may not limit the damage

You dont know that yet. I say we are going to get on top of this.
And band-aides can be very useful for short periods. If they stop the blood clotting for the period that it is most active within the cacophony of symptoms, we have done a good job. This virus staying with us is not the same as the virus producing the awful symptoms we see in some people right now.

I am a natural optimist on almost everything so... yeah.
But this is something that makes much more sense to me to be optimistic about.

You need to vote btw... It matters, even in Texas. People need to see a shift in election numbers to believe.

[tholdren]

You dont know that yet. I say we are going to get on top of this.
And band-aides can be very useful for short periods. If they stop the blood clotting for the period that it is most active within the cacophony of symptoms, we have done a good job. This virus staying with us is not the same as the virus producing the awful symptoms we see in some people right now.

I am a natural optimist on almost everything so... yeah.
But this is something that makes much more sense to me to be optimistic about.

You need to vote btw... It matters, even in Texas. People need to see a shift in election numbers to believe.

Pgardn with that election science to fix covid.


Lololool

Your math

[pgardn]

https://apple.news/A5ZU-h3jVQDayqJ8Z4jCmpQ

very nice summary and good explanations concerning the types of vaccines

definitely not for the foldren.
Requires ability to read and counting to four.

[Blake]

I guess there is a measure of self interest here, but props to this 72 year old for walking the walk.

Guess he finally realized this mask was ineffective in several different ways

[Winehole23]

serial pump and dump

Oleandrin, the experimental extract, was presented to the president in July during an Oval Office meeting and has been touted by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson, as well as MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell. Lindell is a key Trump supporter who recently invested in the company producing the unproven extract. “The involvement of the Secretary of HUD and MyPillow.com in pushing a dubious product at the highest levels should give Americans no comfort at night about their health and safety during a raging pandemic,” a senior administration official said.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...t-report?amp=1

[Winehole23]

To the alarm of some government health officials, President Trump has expressed enthusiasm for the Food and Drug Administration to approve an extract from the oleander plant as a dietary supplement to cure COVID-19, despite lack of proof that it works.

• The experimental botanical extract, oleandrin, was promoted to Trump during an Oval Office meeting in July.
• It's embraced by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson and MyPillow founder and CEO Mike Lindell, a big Trump backer, who recently took a financial stake in the company that develops the product.
• Lindell told Axios that in the meeting, Trump "basically said: …'The FDA should be approving it.'"​
• The White House did not respond to requests for comment.

https://www.axios.com/newsletters/ax...9fefec0c3.html

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Federal Study of Covid Treatments Enters a New Phase

A clinical trial showed that remdesivir helped hospitalized patients.

Now researchers are asking whether when the drug is paired with another antiviral drug, patients will recover faster.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/h...emdesivir.html

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The Pillow Man is pushing plant extract Leandrin, and now he has Trash pushing it, too

Blind leading the ignorant blind

[tholdren]

https://apple.news/A5ZU-h3jVQDayqJ8Z4jCmpQ

very nice summary and good explanations concerning the types of vaccines

definitely not for the foldren.
Requires ability to read and counting to four.

lololol ifr. Just like I said 6 months ago

[ElNono]

lololol ifr. Just like I said 6 months ago

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