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    Also consider the some lab are doing batch testing. They're mixing samples together up to 10 in a sample and if it's negative then they are all negative but if it's positive then individual samples will get a retest. These may get reported initially as all positives since they all tested positive. They will do this to preserve reagents and instrument time along with personnel of course. Man hours count.

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    Thing is, I don't blame either governor for nursing home deaths. I'd bet dollars to donuts staff ed up by not strictly isolating Covid positive patients. Now we can blame Cuomo and/or DeathSentence for not better protecting the patients in these facilities given the reputation of how ty most nursing homes are, with all the reports of staff stealing from patients, abusing patients, and what ever else goes on in these elder care holes, but again, I won't accuse either of what is essentially manslaughter without facts. If we get corroborated witness testimony that Cuomo had options and chose the nursing home option in bad faith (i.e. to perhaps save money or make nursing homes/insurance companies more money), then string him up.
    Cuomo gave immunity to nursing home executives after big campaign donations
    Critics say data proves New York’s liability shield is linked to higher nursing home death rates during the pandemic
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...execs-immunity

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    Thing is, I don't blame either governor for nursing home deaths. I'd bet dollars to donuts staff ed up by not strictly isolating Covid positive patients. Now we can blame Cuomo and/or DeathSentence for not better protecting the patients in these facilities given the reputation of how ty most nursing homes are, with all the reports of staff stealing from patients, abusing patients, and what ever else goes on in these elder care holes, but again, I won't accuse either of what is essentially manslaughter without facts. If we get corroborated witness testimony that Cuomo had options and chose the nursing home option in bad faith (i.e. to perhaps save money or make nursing homes/insurance companies more money), then string him up.
    Come on Mid this reeks of bias. You're willing to give Cuomo the benefit of the doubt when he has 30,000 deaths under his belt. It's funny though him being much closer to the situation and much more in charge of it than Trump you're willing to say Trump is responsible for it completely. This is why some of the discussions on these forums never get anywhere because people are unwilling to let go their biases and just look at raw data.

    The conditions in the nursing homes and their past transgressions should have no bearing on whether or not they did something wrong with in regards to covid. You're basically poisoning the well against the nursing homes in order to protect Cuomo from any kind of liability. While it's possible Cuomo was directly responsible for these deaths because of his pandering to specific groups of people, he is without question the one in charge of the situation so the responsibility by default falls on him. Why are so many on the left here so willing to let people on the left skate with this many deaths under their belt if they lose their ing mind at 1/10 that somewhere else?

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    Cuomo gave immunity to nursing home executives after big campaign donations
    Critics say data proves New York’s liability shield is linked to higher nursing home death rates during the pandemic
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...execs-immunity
    Plot thickens. I think once the halo wears off, New York residents might start turning on him.

    And sake of the argument.

    Ron DeSantis’ PAC raises $1.3 million, Disney, The Villages among contributors
    https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...-the-villages/

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    Plot thickens. I think once the halo wears off, New York residents might start turning on him.

    And sake of the argument.



    https://www.tampabay.com/florida-pol...-the-villages/
    Disney gave only $50,000 according to your article

    Meanwhile....The immunity provision in Cuomo’s budget came 18 months after the GNYHA delivered $1.25m to the Cuomo-controlled New York State Democratic committee that was supporting the governor’s re-election bid. The money went to the committee’s so-called housekeeping account. The account, which can accept unlimited donations, is meant to support general party activities but has also been used to promote Cuomo and his agenda in television ads, including in his 2018 re-election campaign.

    The GNYHA donations – which were a huge increase from prior years – made the group one of the New York Democratic party’s largest contributors during Cuomo’s campaign. Three of the hospital association’s top officials separately gave more than $150,000 to Cuomo’s campaign between 2015 and 2018.

    In all, during the governor’s second term, Cuomo’s campaign and his state party committee raked in more than $2.3m from hospital and nursing home industry donors and their lobbying firms, according to data compiled by the National Ins ute on Money in Politics.

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    Come on Mid this reeks of bias. You're willing to give Cuomo the benefit of the doubt when he has 30,000 deaths under his belt. It's funny though him being much closer to the situation and much more in charge of it than Trump you're willing to say Trump is responsible for it completely. This is why some of the discussions on these forums never get anywhere because people are unwilling to let go their biases and just look at raw data.
    No, I just want evidence. TSA linked an article that revealed Cuomo received contributions from nursing home executives, which could prove motive, i.e. sending patients there which would obviously increase the revenue of these places.

    As for Trump, he shoulders a big share of the blame. I'm not going to break it down into percentages, but his legacy is summed up in one tweet for me on Feb. 26. "Nothing to worry about. Covid under control. Stock market looking up!" While republican senators were selling off stock.

    Then he had his official state media Fox downplay the virus for a month.

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    Disney gave only $50,000 according to your article

    Meanwhile....The immunity provision in Cuomo’s budget came 18 months after the GNYHA delivered $1.25m to the Cuomo-controlled New York State Democratic committee that was supporting the governor’s re-election bid. The money went to the committee’s so-called housekeeping account. The account, which can accept unlimited donations, is meant to support general party activities but has also been used to promote Cuomo and his agenda in television ads, including in his 2018 re-election campaign.

    The GNYHA donations – which were a huge increase from prior years – made the group one of the New York Democratic party’s largest contributors during Cuomo’s campaign. Three of the hospital association’s top officials separately gave more than $150,000 to Cuomo’s campaign between 2015 and 2018.

    In all, during the governor’s second term, Cuomo’s campaign and his state party committee raked in more than $2.3m from hospital and nursing home industry donors and their lobbying firms, according to data compiled by the National Ins ute on Money in Politics.
    I admitted Cuomo looks like a heel, but you can't do the same for DeathSentence. "It was only 50K!" Hmmm.

    A trade group for Florida’s nearly 700 nursing homes is asking Gov. Ron DeSantis to extend the state’s sovereign immunity provisions to the industry and other healthcare sectors during the course of the coronavirus pandemic. If the request is granted, hospitals, nursing homes, assisted living facilities and other providers would be protected against negligence suits.

    DeSantis is already doing the industry a favor by refusing to name nursing homes and ALFs where positive tests have occurred. The Miami Herald, joined by a slew of other news organizations, has filed notice of intent to file a public records lawsuit over that refusal. DeSantis tried to block the suit by having his general counsel induce the Herald’s longtime law firm, which does considerable legal work for the state, to bow out. A new law firm had to be hired.
    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/sta...241966186.html

    Yeah, he really protected the homes. That's why over 50 percent of deaths as of June were linked to these homes.

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    Cuomo gave immunity to nursing home executives after big campaign donations
    Critics say data proves New York’s liability shield is linked to higher nursing home death rates during the pandemic
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...execs-immunity
    WHATABOUTCUOMOINMAY

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    Come on Mid this reeks of bias. You're willing to give Cuomo the benefit of the doubt when he has 30,000 deaths under his belt.
    DMC gives Trump the benefit of the doubt all day every day

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    DMC gives Trump the benefit of the doubt all day every day
    He reeks of bias.

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    Oh I thought that was Honest Broker by Calvin Klein

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    Yeah, if Cuomo acted in bad faith, it'll come out. But right now, NY has killed their curve while Florida isn't trending positively and DeathSentence insists on keeping Disneyworld open and not committing to any closures.

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    Cuomo gave immunity to nursing home executives after big campaign donations
    Critics say data proves New York’s liability shield is linked to higher nursing home death rates during the pandemic
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...execs-immunity

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    Yeah, if Cuomo acted in bad faith, it'll come out. But right now, NY has killed their curve while Florida isn't trending positively and DeathSentence insists on keeping Disneyworld open and not committing to any closures.
    Can really call him DeathSentence if he actually opens the schools next month while this is flaring.

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    Trump deaths are now over 140k. He knew it was coming in November.

    He insists that schools open, yet the White House is closed. Follow that logic, cult members.

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    I only bring up New York when Blake brings up Florida and compares it to the rest of the world "for perspective". Pushing fear porn record setting positive test case count without mentioning the amount of tests being done in Florida is disingenuous at best.



    If Cuomo didn't up on the nursing homes Cuomo wouldn't have scrubbed the website of his nursing home mandates.

    And I'm shocked that you of all people accepted the 15%+ positive rate the media has been running with. I thought you would have done some digging on your own. Start on page 24 and look at how many labs are only reporting positive cases (100%).

    https://floridadisaster.org/globalas...s_20200707.pdf

    FL does not have a 15%+ positive rate.

    https://alachuachronicle.com/covid-t...-are-reported/
    You calling anyone out for being disingenuous.

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    Lol the atheist cuckold creating new threads about reopening churches or better yet not reopening due to his authoritarian overlords he'd let raw dog his ex at a blink of an eye.

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    Now we can blame Cuomo
    You're willing to give Cuomo the benefit of the doubt


    Obvious strawman is obvious.

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    Can really call him DeathSentence if he actually opens the schools next month while this is flaring.
    How many dead teachers are we willing to have? Asking for a friend?

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    How many dead teachers are we willing to have? Asking for a friend?
    It’s been shown in schools around the world that kids aren’t a risk to infect other kids or teachers. How many dead kids from suicide and drug overdoses due to school lockdowns are you willing to have? How much of an increase in child abuse due to school lockdowns are you willing to have? How much of an increase in mental health issues in kids due to school lockdowns are you willing to have? Asking for a friend.

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    It’s been shown in schools around the world that kids aren’t a risk to infect other kids or teachers.
    Well why were schools in France and Israel shut down after reopening? If it's not the kids, there is something else you are missing.

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    It’s been shown in schools around the world that kids aren’t a risk to infect other kids or teachers. How many dead kids from suicide and drug overdoses due to school lockdowns are you willing to have? How much of an increase in child abuse due to school lockdowns are you willing to have? How much of an increase in mental health issues in kids due to school lockdowns are you willing to have? Asking for a friend.
    How many strawmen are you willing to make in order to avoid answering the question?

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