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    ...are the same ones that are against the separation of church and state?

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    They also call any program funded by their tax dollars that might help the poors "socialism," while jerking off to the fact the military gets the biggest portion of their tax dollar. The military is a socialized service just the same as something like universal healthcare.

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    This old chestnut.

    Chumpettes really mad their hoax getting exposed.

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    ...are the same ones that are against the separation of church and state?
    Give an example

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    They also call any program funded by their tax dollars that might help the poors "socialism," while jerking off to the fact the military gets the biggest portion of their tax dollar. The military is a socialized service just the same as something like universal healthcare.
    Wrong

    Military IS government. It's not a service for the people. Even the police force isn't socialism. Maybe some of you don't know what socialism is and want to redefine it to fit a narrative.

    Here, let me refresh your memories...

    so·cial·ism
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    a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.


    So these strawman arguments you folks keep making are pointless.

    How does the military fit into "means of production, distribution and exchange"? How is the military regulated by the community as a whole?

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    Wrong

    Military IS government. It's not a service for the people. Even the police force isn't socialism. Maybe some of you don't know what socialism is and want to redefine it to fit a narrative.
    Yeah, that's why the phrase "thank you for your service" isn't something military veterans usually hear.

    Here, let me refresh your memories...

    so·cial·ism
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    a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.


    So these strawman arguments you folks keep making are pointless.

    How does the military fit into "means of production, distribution and exchange"? How is the military regulated by the community as a whole?
    You do know that militars get paid, and goods and labour are used to produce military stuff, right? Everything in this World falls under the category "means of production, distribution and exchange".

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    Give an example
    50% of my friends. And, I can't tell for sure but, seeing your arguments here, probably you too.

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    This old chestnut.

    Chumpettes really mad their hoax getting exposed.
    I know for a fact you know I'm not a "chumpettee", tbh.

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    I know for a fact you know I'm not a "chumpettee", tbh.
    I'll amend the record to reflect that I'm not calling you a chumpette. Perhaps you're just sympathetic to them in this instance is all.

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    50% of my friends. And, I can't tell for sure but, seeing your arguments here, probably you too.
    Conservatives folded on this issue decades ago

    You might be seeing an increase in debate because "social activism" is being forced into the state, work place and schools

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    Separation of church and state is pretty well established.

    The reality is that the modern Democrat sees Christians as the enemy and they're letting it bleed into their decision making; and we're not seeing separation of anti-church and state.

    The decision to shut down churches is a poor one that will blow up in these d-bags' faces.

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    Wrong

    Military IS government. It's not a service for the people. Even the police force isn't socialism. Maybe some of you don't know what socialism is and want to redefine it to fit a narrative.

    Here, let me refresh your memories...

    so·cial·ism
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    a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.


    So these strawman arguments you folks keep making are pointless.

    How does the military fit into "means of production, distribution and exchange"? How is the military regulated by the community as a whole?
    Government is the community, dude. They are supposed to be instruments of our collective will who act in our interests. You're also conflating socialism with socialized service. I define a socialized service/program as something funded with our collective tax dollars that "serves us all." Is the military funded with our tax dollars? Does the military serve us all (if you say no, then there goes that whole, "The military defends our freedoms" catch phrase).

    I know there's a cognitive disconnect here with you since you served (meaning, we paid your salary) but are against universal healthcare (you don't your tax dollars paying for anyone else's salary/benefits).

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    Conservatives folded on this issue decades ago
    Then why are most churches still being funded by governments all over the World?

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    Then why are most churches still being funded by governments all over the World?
    Good question

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    Tell that to anybody who wants to buy a bottle of whiskey on a Sunday.
    Can you somehow not buy boos on Sunday, slob?

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    Can you somehow not buy boos on Sunday, slob?
    But why can't he? Isn't that what freedom and capitalism should be all about?

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    Yeah, that's why the phrase "thank you for your service" isn't something military veterans usually hear.
    Under open government transparency guidelines, information on public employees (including those employed by Federal, state, and municipal governments) is a matter of public record. FederalPay.org has created a powerful search tool that allows public access to the EHRI-SDM dataset, which contains records of most public employees of the United States' Federal Government.

    vs

    It’s not easy to find military members or get their contact information. There’s no database to search. And privacy laws and military rules don’t allow the services to share this information.

    You do know that militars get paid, and goods and labour are used to produce military stuff, right? Everything in this World falls under the category "means of production, distribution and exchange".
    Since I served in the military I am well aware of how it works.

    No, they do not produce their own ships, their own engines, their own guidance systems, their own aircraft, their own clothing, their own food, their own housing... for the most part.

    1. Lockheed Martin Corp.
    2. Boeing Co.
    3. General Dynamics Corp.
    4. Raytheon Co.
    5. Northrop Grumman Corp
    6. United Technologies Corp.
    7. Huntington Ingalls Industries Inc.
    8. Humana Inc.
    9. Harris Corp.
    10. BAE Systems PLC

    Just to name a few private contractors.

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    Under open government transparency guidelines, information on public employees (including those employed by Federal, state, and municipal governments) is a matter of public record. FederalPay.org has created a powerful search tool that allows public access to the EHRI-SDM dataset, which contains records of most public employees of the United States' Federal Government.

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    It’s not easy to find military members or get their contact information. There’s no database to search. And privacy laws and military rules don’t allow the services to share this information.
    Doesn't that contradict your point that the government and the military are the same thing?

    Also, public school teachers don't get their personal info leaked either, that doesn't mean government doesn't pay their salary wit tax money.

    Since I served in the military I am well aware of how it works.

    No, they do not produce their own ships, their own engines, their own guidance systems, their own aircraft, their own clothing, their own food, their own housing... for the most part.

    1. Lockheed Martin Corp.
    2. Boeing Co.
    3. General Dynamics Corp.
    4. Raytheon Co.
    5. Northrop Grumman Corp
    6. United Technologies Corp.
    7. Huntington Ingalls Industries Inc.
    8. Humana Inc.
    9. Harris Corp.
    10. BAE Systems PLC

    Just to name a few private contractors.
    And who pays for that? Yeeeah, that's right.

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    Government is the community, dude. They are supposed to be instruments of our collective will who act in our interests. You're also conflating socialism with socialized service. I define a socialized service/program as something funded with our collective tax dollars that "serves us all." Is the military funded with our tax dollars? Does the military serve us all (if you say no, then there goes that whole, "The military defends our freedoms" catch phrase).

    I know there's a cognitive disconnect here with you since you served (meaning, we paid your salary) but are against universal healthcare (you don't your tax dollars paying for anyone else's salary/benefits).
    Government isn't community. Otherwise the two terms are worthless and the term "private sector" means nothing.

    Who here is against social services?

    I don't want to be under the same level of healthcare I got in the military. It was then, it's now.

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    Doesn't that contradict your point that the government and the military are the same thing?

    Also, public school teachers don't get their personal info leaked either, that doesn't mean government doesn't pay their salary wit tax money.



    And who pays for that? Yeeeah, that's right.
    The government includes the military but that doesn't mean that, because the government has social services, the military is a social service. Common logical fallacies..

    Socialism isn't money from the general public going to private corporations

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    50% of my friends. And, I can't tell for sure but, seeing your arguments here, probably you too.
    Give an example of someone being against the separation of church and state.

    "Congress shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"

    Who is against this? Your anonymous friends list doesn't necessitate a thread. Talk to them or re-examine your priorities.

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    Lots of areas in the South still have blue laws, Derp.
    So you can't buy boos on Sunday?

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    But why can't he? Isn't that what freedom and capitalism should be all about?
    Unfettered capitalism good now?

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    Where do you live that you can't buy boos on Sunday? What podunk town?

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    Where do you live that you can't buy boos on Sunday? What podunk town?
    The entire Republican controlled state of Texas.

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