Congratulations Trumpsters, you voted for the NWO...

[Spurtacular]

Rallies are no barometer because even Shillary had comparable (even better) numbers, tbh. The fact that there's a ceiling in rallies logically means it's not a barometer.

Under that premise, his inauguration was a disaster, and actually supports the contention he just isn't a popular prez.

I'm not going to defend polls here, but you ignore them at your own risk. As I said, you can take every poll within the margin of error to go to Trump, if you feel they're not adjusted quite right.

I know Trump likes to claim they're fake, but he's been also pretty vocal and mad when Fox News has published theirs, so I'm fairly sure that behind the whole charade, he's keeping a good look at them.

What are you talking about? Nobody showed up to Hillary rallies.

Rallies may have some built-in fallibility, but they're frankly more scientific than the rigged polls.

I don't even worry about "adjusted". I know what the fiction numbers well be before they come out.

I've been watching this for cycle after cycle. I know how it works.

You think money doesn't buy influence. You're sadly inept in this belief that it's an upright reality.

[ElNono]

What are you talking about? Nobody showed up to Hillary rallies.

Rallies may have some built-in fallibility, but they're frankly more scientific than the rigged polls.

I don't even worry about "adjusted". I know what the fiction numbers well be before they come out.

I've been watching this for cycle after cycle. I know how it works.

You think money doesn't buy influence. You're sadly inept in this belief that it's an upright reality.

This looks like nobody showed up?



Rallies are a flawed barometer because both sides have a hard 30% base that will likely fill up any arena in a friendly state. Like I said, they inherently have a cap.

ie: there's 21 million people in florida, over 12 million are registered voters, but you're going to project that from a 20k stadium?

And since you've been watching this 'cycle after cycle', you then know polls are actually fairly accurate. You would know '16 was largely an outlier when it comes to polling.

[Spurtacular]

This looks like nobody showed up?

That was a free concert / party on election eve. Don't be desperate. It's unbecoming.

[SnakeBoy]

This looks like nobody showed up?



Rallies are a flawed barometer because both sides have a hard 30% base that will likely fill up any arena in a friendly state. Like I said, they inherently have a cap.

ie: there's 21 million people in florida, over 12 million are registered voters, but you're going to project that from a 20k stadium?

And since you've been watching this 'cycle after cycle', you then know polls are actually fairly accurate. You would know '16 was largely an outlier when it comes to polling.

Line up for that rally

Bon Jovi
Bruce Springsteen
Mic e Obama
Barack Obama
then lary came out

[Spurtacular]

Rallies are a flawed barometer because both sides have a hard 30% base that will likely fill up any arena in a friendly state. Like I said, they inherently have a cap.

ie: there's 21 million people in florida, over 12 million are registered voters, but you're going to project that from a 20k stadium?

Trump would fill three arenas on any given day. Hillary had to bus in high school students to get more than a hundred people to her events.

You show that you're desperate.

[Spurtacular]

And since you've been watching this 'cycle after cycle', you then know polls are actually fairly accurate. You would know '16 was largely an outlier when it comes to polling.

Not at all. They're made up.

[SnakeBoy]

Not at all. They're made up.

At this point they are. They always tighten at the election gets closer so pollsters can claim accuracy no matter who wins.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nton-5491.html

[ElNono]

Line up for that rally

Bon Jovi
Bruce Springsteen
Mic e Obama
Barack Obama
then lary came out

Hey, I never said they don't pull tricks. Trump had his share of guests as well.

[ElNono]

Trump would fill three arenas on any given day. Hillary had to bus in high school students to get more than a hundred people to her events.

You show that you're desperate.

You're making up and I'm desperate? Prove that Trump can fill three arenas on any given day. You can't. He couldn't even fill an arena in ing Tulsa, Ok.

Sorry, he's never been very popular. I'm not going to claim Shillary was more popular, she was actually very unlikeable, so that's a fairly low bar.

It's ok though, he doesn't need to be liked or popular, he just needs to win re-election.

Not at all. They're made up.

Do tell.

I've presented polls from 2012 and 2008 before, fairly accurate. Want me to post them again?

[ElNono]

At this point they are. They always tighten at the election gets closer so pollsters can claim accuracy no matter who wins.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nton-5491.html

Does this look 'tight' to you?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...obama-225.html

[ElNono]

2018 Generic Congressional ballot:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...vote-6185.html

2010 Generic Congressional ballot:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...vote-2171.html

Looks pretty spot on to me.

[Spurtacular]

You're making up and I'm desperate? Prove that Trump can fill three arenas on any given day. You can't. He couldn't even fill an arena in ing Tulsa, Ok.

Sorry, he's never been very popular. I'm not going to claim Shillary was more popular, she was actually very unlikeable, so that's a fairly low bar.

It's ok though, he doesn't need to be liked or popular, he just needs to win re-election.

You either weren't paying any attention to rally numbers in 2016 or you're making up.

Trump is popular. Hillary and Biden are unpopular. It is what it is.

You can always hope that the Democrat cheating apparatus doesn't fail you like last time.

[Spurtacular]

Do tell.

I've presented polls from 2012 and 2008 before, fairly accurate. Want me to post them again?

I don't care about the fake polls.

[ElNono]

You either weren't paying any attention to rally numbers in 2016 or you're making up.

Trump is popular. Hillary and Biden are unpopular. It is what it is.

You can always hope that the Democrat cheating apparatus doesn't fail you like last time.

You can't pick and choose numbers... his popularity numbers throughout his campaign, including losing the popular vote, his inauguration, his four years as president, all point to him being fairly unpopular.

You can call them fake, whatever makes you sleep better at night, but they are what they are.

Like I said, at the end of the day, he doesn't need to be liked, he just needs to win re-election.

[SnakeBoy]

Does this look 'tight' to you?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...obama-225.html

Sept. and McCain up 3 in a year any Repub didn't stand a chance much less one that conservatives didn't like

Pretty sure pollsters will make it interesting between now and November

[Spurtacular]

You can't pick and choose numbers... his popularity numbers throughout his campaign, including losing the popular vote, his inauguration, his four years as president, all point to him being fairly unpopular.

You can call them fake, whatever makes you sleep better at night, but they are what they are.

Like I said, at the end of the day, he doesn't need to be liked, he just needs to win re-election.

There were a lot of people at his inauguration. And Trump had multiple rallies (two to four a day) with huge numbers for weeks at a time.

The Dem ballot box stuffing is not proof of popularity. Thank God for the electoral college that can mitigate the cheating for clearly unpopular candidates like Zombie Rapist and Psychopath Hillary.

Trump doesn't need to be like to win or lose; but the fact is that he is very popular. People love to love him and snowflakes love to hate him. Nobody gives two s about Zombie Rapist.

[ElNono]

Sept. and McCain up 3 in a year any Repub didn't stand a chance much less one that conservatives didn't like

Pretty sure pollsters will make it interesting between now and November

Those polls were from end of October - start of November... would you agree they were relatively spot on?

[ElNono]

There were a lot of people at his inauguration. And Trump had multiple rallies (two to four a day) with huge numbers for weeks at a time.

The Dem ballot box stuffing is not proof of popularity. Thank God for the electoral college that can mitigate the cheating for clearly unpopular candidates like Zombie Rapist and Psychopath Hillary.

Trump doesn't need to be like to win or lose; but the fact is that he is very popular. People love to love him and snowflakes love to hate him. Nobody gives two s about Zombie Rapist.

I do think he has a very devoted, very vocal 30%, tbh...

[ElNono]

BTW, your own Trump debunked the voter fraud hoax. You hate to see it, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

I do think he has a very devoted, very vocal 30%, tbh...

Maybe the most popular person in the world.

Meanwhile, people care about Zombie Rapist even much less than they cared about Psycho Killer.

[Spurtacular]

Line up for that rally

Bon Jovi
Bruce Springsteen
Mic e Obama
Barack Obama
then lary came out

Jay Z and Beyoncé too IIRC

ElTrollo trying to claim a free concert is proof that Psycho Killer is popular.

I will admit that a good number feminazis and beta boys were enamored with her.

[ChumpDumper]

Maybe the most popular person in the world.

[ElNono]

Maybe the most popular person in the world.

Meanwhile, people care about Zombie Rapist even much less than they cared about Psycho Killer.

You mean 'well known'... he's certainly embarrassed the US enough... the world was laughing at his face, after all.

[Spurtacular]

[Spurtacular]

You mean 'well known'... he's certainly embarrassed the US enough... the world was laughing at his face, after all.

Liberal tears narrative