not a terrible list. i think dak is too low. carr is probably a few spots too high.
1. Mahomes
2. Brady
3. Wilson
4. Brees
5. Rodgers
6. Wentz
7. Watson
8. Jackson
9. Stafford
10. Ryan
11. Carr
12. Rivers
13. Murray
14. Cousins
15. Garoppolo
16. Goff
17. Tannehill
18. Roethlisberger
19. Darnold
20. Prescott/Dalton
21. Jones
22. Newton
23. Mayfield
24. Burrow
25. Foles/Trubisky
26. Tagovailoa/Fitzpatrick
27. Lock
28. Bridgewater
29. Allen
30. Minshew
31. Taylor/Herbert
32. Haskins (Smith would be higher if available)
not a terrible list. i think dak is too low. carr is probably a few spots too high.
Vince Young noticeably absent.
So is Chad Henne
QB play is at low point tbh. Mahomes is the only guy on there you’d say is a guaranteed lock for a great season.
Russ is going to be very good but overrated, per usual.
Brady, Brees, & Rodgers all have Cliff potential.
Lamar & Watson could be overexposed and countered by defenses, doubtful but possible.
Wentz/Stafford/Ryan are always putting up historic levels of empty stats.
Goff is an enigma. He's the one guy I can't really get a read on. I think the rest are pretty predictable.
Op has Brady way too high.
And the troll gig with Dak at 20
1. Mahomes
2. Wilson
They are 1a and 1b tbh. I want to see Mahomes play with Seattle weapons.
3. Lamar Jackson
Who cares. QBs and their ranking are too dependant on weapons, o-line and coaching. Compare Brady in 2013 and 2014. Rodgers in 2014 and 2015 and so on. Fivehead in 2010 and 2012. Most overvalued position in all of sports.
Mahomes
Wilson
Lamar
Watson
Brees
Rodgers
Brady
Big Ben
Ryan
Stafford
Rivers
Wentz
Cousins
Murray
Dak
Goff
Garoppolo
Allen
Tannehill
Carr
Bridgewater
Darnold
Newton
Burrow
Tago
Lock
Trubisky
Mayfield
Jones
Minshew
Herbert
Haskins
Last edited by DAF86; 07-19-2020 at 01:56 PM.
Lol "most overvalued position"
If it's not #1, what is?
Not a troll gig... how do you essentially go .500 three years in a row with a consistently top-3 OLine and receiver corps?! I don't care about Jason Garrett, great QBs win whoever the coach is, look at the ty coaches Peyton won with.
Prescott isn't clutch. He's the king of empty stats if there ever was one... did you watch last year? Sure he had 4900 yards, but two-thirds of them were with the Cowboys down double digits on the scoreboard. And when he needed a key game winning drive? 4 opportunities last year; fell flat on his face all 4 times. Even average QBs will convert at least 1 or 2 of those chances; top 10 QBs 2 or 3. Elite QBs, 3 or 4 out of 4.
Prescott isn't clutch. He didn't get extended or paid big money long term for a good reason. He's just fine where I put him. He's average, and the richest owner in sports obviously agrees. He didn't get to be so rich coming from podunk Arkansas by making poor business decisions. He's going to play 2020 on the tag and like it, then get tagged and traded next March. That's no more than he deserves.
Lol jerry is a great GM because he's a great businessman. Is this 1998?
There are so many horrible GM moves over the last 20 years by Jerry it would take a new thread to list them all.
And the "empty stat" argument doesn't fly if you've got Kyler Murray 7 spots ahead. You're just a bitter typical cowboy fan that always roots for the backup QB when they are losing. We all know this, Andy.
I'm expecting a big breakout season not just from Kyler, but from Arizona as a whole. They now have 2 superstars at LB and an offensive mastermind at HC with one of the best WR corps in the league now, if not the best. Kyler is just as fast/good as Lamar Jackson but with a better arm and a much more pass friendly offense.
I'd be surprised if my #13 ranking for Murray isn't "too low" by the end of the season. Expect Arizona to win double digits even in that loaded division. That division is the best in the NFL and they all play the AFC East and NFC East which of course helps.
Last year, the 49ers were my "breakout candidate" team of the year, and I got it more than right. In 2017 the Eagles were my breakout contender, and guess what, I got it *more than* right. I almost always get that prediction right, if nothing else. This year it's Arizona for me... shout-out to Culburn/Thread out there.
IDK about real football rankings but for fantasy, the top 5 or 6 are all at least half black.
Just checked...it's the top 6. Where's Pedante?
QBs are the most important players in NFL. But they aren't that important. They're dependent on offensive line, receivers, running backs, play-calling.
Look at the best quarterbacks in their best and down seasons. It looks like they have best seasons in stacked teams and worst seasons when they play with weak supporting casts. Check Brady's perfomance in first half and then in second half of 2015 and guess why he was better in the first half.
Yes, Mahomes > Smith and Chiefs are champs now. Ok. Put him in Chicago or Jacksonville and well, he won't be as productive. And 49ers were robbed (I'm not Chiefs hater, Mahomes is my favourite player after Brady). Jet hold wasp or jet chip hold, I don't know (Pats, Packers and all teams with marquee qbs except the Saints in the playoffs always get ref help).
So, my point is that qbs aren't NBA superstars who are extremely productive even with mediocre rosters. Elite qbs aren't so elite in bad teams.
Start at 14:27:
Congrats in advance to Brady on his upcoming MVP.
Do the Chiefs have the easiest path to a repeat ever? Mahomes is in his own league in terms of QB play and they have no major departures from last season, while players around the league are dropping out like flies.
Half their skill players will stay home tbh. Niners all the way
Also, hot take -- this may be the year for the Browns to finally get it together. With all the Covid kerfuffling they could conceivably make the playoffs and make a splash, especially if compe ors start sitting since some of them are all fat and happy
Tyreek and Sammy are whiny es, but with the salary they're making they can't really afford to hold out/sit out. Kelce is a "tough country boy" and won't sit out.
Their starting RB Damien Williams just opted out yesterday, their starting right tackle or whatever opted out a few days ago. Wait for it...
Meh, Damien Williams has always been mediocre. Good outside runner and receiving back but could never get the tough 3-4 yards inside on short yardage and goal-line downs that Hunt got. That position hasn't been dynamic for KC since they jettisoned Hunt.
The rookie they drafted looks to be a stud, though. He was probably going to take Williams' job anyway at some point this season.
How did the browns not make the playoffs last year with that roster
Oh right their overrated qb
Yeah I thought Damien was just meh. The backup was better.
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