COVID-19 Death per 1M Population

**tholdren** · 07-20-2020

Is it exhausting to be wrong about everything covid?

You have literally said multiple different states would be out of hospital capacity. And that has not happened. Even in ny. Where the govt killed more people than covid.

The funny thing is. You hate trunp, yet he basically quoted a math principle when he's said the cure shouldn't be worse than the disease.

Not sure if you just triggered because hes been more correct than you. And you said he alone is responsible.

Lol

chumpdump couldn't respond except with a lie

**midnightpulp** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by tholdren

lockdowns will never be justified. Go back and look at the all cause fatality chart, look at the unemployment rate, and there will be thousands of lockdown issues that arise for years in terms of health.

And if you are too incompetent to understand why this is a problem, you may want to consider not posting any more gossip.

I have the all cause fatality chart. Covid was the leading driver of all cause mortality.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2767980

Yeah, it's never been proven that recessions and depressions cause these long term health problems. Great Depression life expectancy actually ROSE.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...20non%2Dwhites.

Suicides and such did not e during the 2008 recession.

What fallout the pandemic may or may not have is nothing but speculation. What is actually happening is Covid is killing people and that needs to be dealt with first. You're also discounting the longterm effects of infection. Many so-called "mild cases" have lung damage, clotting, neurological damage, and so forth.

**ChumpDumper** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by tholdren

chumpdump couldn't respond except with a lie

Wrong.

You called COVID-19 the flu with no qualifications.

Apologize.

**tholdren** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by midnightpulp

I have the all cause fatality chart. Covid was the leading driver of all cause mortality.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2767980

Yeah, it's never been proven that recessions and depressions cause these long term health problems. Great Depression life expectancy actually ROSE.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...20non%2Dwhites.

Suicides and such did not e during the 2008 recession.

What fallout the pandemic may or may not have is nothing but speculation. What is actually happening is Covid is killing people and that needs to be dealt with first. You're also discounting the longterm effects of infection. Many so-called "mild cases" have lung damage, clotting, neurological damage, and so forth.

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahajajajja jajajajajajajjagain

He thought covid deaths were all confirmed by tests and actually caused death.

Now he's saying deaths from lockdown surely won't occur....and proves his point with this Twitter chart.

Midnightpulp you lost.

You dont even understand how the data is recorded and organized.

/thread

**ChumpDumper** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by tholdren

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahajajajja jajajajajajajjagain

He thought covid deaths were all confirmed by tests and actually caused death.

Now he's saying deaths from lockdown surely won't occur....and proves his point with this Twitter chart.

Midnightpulp you lost.

You dont even understand how the data is recorded and organized.

/thread

You can always tell when f

ldren is scared.

1) He changes the subject.

2) He declares victory.

3) He desperately tries to end the discussion.

**midnightpulp** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by tholdren

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahajajajja jajajajajajajjagain

He thought covid deaths were all confirmed by tests and actually caused death.

Now he's saying deaths from lockdown surely won't occur....and proves his point with this Twitter chart.

Midnightpulp you lost.

You dont even understand how the data is recorded and organized.

/thread

Click the first link. It shows covid caused many, many more deaths than other conditions. The lockdowns didn't cause more deaths than Covid, as you claim.

What "twitter chart?" That chart is the suicide rate over the years. See how linear the growth is? You lockdown skeptics keep claiming the suicide rate will likely soar to unprecedented levels because of the recession we're bound to be in. That didn't happen in '08-'10. No evidence that recessions or depressions will cause a dramatic e in the suicide rate over a period of time.

**tholdren** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by midnightpulp

Click the first link. It shows covid caused many, many more deaths than other conditions. The lockdowns didn't cause more deaths than Covid, as you claim.

What "twitter chart?" That chart is the suicide rate over the years. See how linear the growth is? You lockdown skeptics keep claiming the suicide rate will likely soar to unprecedented levels because of the recession we're bound to be in. That didn't happen in '08-'10. No evidence that recessions or depressions will cause a dramatic e in the suicide rate over a period of time.

Beahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You trying to hide because you didn't know probable deaths are tabulated by all states.

And name-calling to boot.

Loloookookk

Wrong

**ChumpDumper** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by tholdren

You trying to hide

You hid for three months.

**tholdren** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by tholdren

Beahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You trying to hide because you didn't know probable deaths are tabulated by all states.

And name-calling to boot.

Loloookookk

Wrong

lolooI'llolIiookikkokokk

Name calling never works

**ElNono** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You hid for three months.

**tholdren** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by tholdren

Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahajajajja jajajajajajajjagain

He thought covid deaths were all confirmed by tests and actually caused death.

Now he's saying deaths from lockdown surely won't occur....and proves his point with this Twitter chart.

Midnightpulp you lost.

You dont even understand how the data is recorded and organized.

/thread

Pwned

**Blake** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by ChumpDumper

You hid for three months.

**DMC** · 07-20-2020

Originally Posted by Blake

Obligatory lapdog +1

Blake you are so predictable

**Blake** · 07-21-2020

Originally Posted by DMC

Obligatory lapdog +1

Blake you are so predictable

Says on my ankle

**DMC** · 07-21-2020

Grouping of low income people in the same dwelling seems likely.

From the website..

Tracking deaths is complicated. New York State's Department of Health only records a "confirmed" COVID death when the patient has had a positive COVID test. This may omit a large number of people who died at home, or at a hospital without a test. New York City has a different process for recording deaths. On April 14th, the NYC Department of Health began reporting "probable deaths"- people who had COVID listed as a cause of death on their death certificates, in addition to deaths of people with confirmed COVID tests. This raised the number of COVID deaths in the city by about 40%.

This still may not include all COVID deaths, as more seemingly unrelated deaths may eventually be classified as caused by COVID. From February 1 through June 13, the CDC estimates there have been about 25,000 excess deaths in the city, compared to historical averages. The graph above uses the NYS DOH number for the NYS total, and the NYC DOH numbers for the NYC totals.

On 6/30, the NYC DOH added 692 deaths to their total, consisting of city residents who had died outside NYC during the first three months of the epidemic. This shows up as small but sharp increase in the confirmed deaths line above.

/website

These outsiders who died.. were some carrying the virus to these other nearby cities?

**tholdren** · 07-21-2020

Originally Posted by tholdren

Beahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

You trying to hide because you didn't know probable deaths are tabulated by all states.

And name-calling to boot.

Loloookookk

Wrong

but but but. A covid fatality can occur with no symptoms. Its counted as a covid fatality.

Midnightpulp - yeah but it's not a probable death.

Lololololll