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eyup. Felonies both, caught in video. Tone at the top matters. The right wing propaganda machine cranking out "rioter" porn 24/7 created the environment where otherwise intelligent people go out of their minds.
dont think it works that way though. can i, as a homeowner, run up and down the street and use the castle doctrine 200 feet away from my house?
eyup. Felonies both, caught in video. Tone at the top matters. The right wing propaganda machine cranking out "rioter" porn 24/7 created the environment where otherwise intelligent people go out of their minds.
Having read the HOA docas for my own HOA, I know exactly which streets are owned by the HOA and which are owned by the county. The corporation owns some of them, and sets aside money in the budget for their repairs.
I would imagine it would be the same, especially in a gated community. It would pretty much have to be that way if you are putting up a gate. I don't imagine it could possibly be legal to block off a public road like that.
That's not a public sidewalk. That's well onto their private estate, putz.
TheGreatYacht Chumpette mob doesn't care about the most basic facts.
I never said they could use castle doctrine.. I said technically the mob was trespassing. You can't shoot them for just trespassing (which they didn't).
obviously they walked through the gate into the private community. nobody denied that.
keep comfort tagging Yauschwitz
You're just happily moving on from your public street sh** cos all these rioters were invading their private property.
Dumb .
It's not all the same though. It varies from HOA to HOA and from state to state. It may turn out be the case but for CC to state it as fact without really knowing is presumptuous.
It wasn't that long ago that he proclaimed that "cows don't fart".
i know you didn't, i'm just saying you cant use the collective ownership of the plot as a justification to act like they did
Yea, they busted a gate and invaded private property.
These mobilized idiots are lucky that the McCloskeys showed restraint and nobody was killed.
And here's a decent commentary about why this may not be a cut and dry issue.
https://www.thetrace.org/2020/07/arm...-self-defense/
lol...what? Restraint is looking out the window of your mansion and then getting back to scolding your maid.
they gate was busted after the fact. the video footage shows them walking through a gate that was just opened along its hinges. there are photos after the fact showing the gate bent down/bent over... but that doesnt match the video footage which shows them walking in in the first place. not saying that the property damage should go unpunished, should they identify the person(s) who participated
It's up for debate.
Law professors differed over whether the McCloskeys were protected by Missouri’s castle doctrine.
Anders Walker, a professor at the St. Louis University School of Law, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that the castle doctrine in the state allows the couple to defend their property on a private street.
“At any point that you enter the property, they can then, in Missouri, use deadly force to get you off the lawn,” Walker said. He described the castle doctrine as a “force field” that “indemnifies you, and you can even pull the trigger in Missouri.”
But Corey Rayburn Yung, a professor at the University of Kansas School of Law, said the castle doctrine in Missouri is expansive, but it doesn’t allow the use of deadly force in this situation, according to LawandCrime.com. He made his comments in a series of tweets.
“Whereas the large majority of jurisdictions limit the castle doctrine to the boundaries of the house, MO’s is more expansive,” Yung tweeted. “Some commenters are reading the statute to mean that you could lawfully shoot someone who stepped onto your lawn. Despite the availability of signs saying, ‘Trespassers will be shot,’ mere trespass has not historically been a basis for using deadly force. So, does MO’s statute represent a new trend, allowing expansive use of deadly force to protect private property? No.”
https://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...astle-doctrine
And both the prosecutor and the AG made it political.
When were they on the lawn?
agree that the case might not be cut and dry (though "lawn" implies their specific property and not just the general street), and agree that it's been politicized all around. i still dont think you can run up and down the street claiming castle doctrine the whole time
prosecutor pushing towards the "diversion program" shows they just want this to go away without looking like they're folding, imo.
I'm not sure if running up and down the street and claiming castle doctrine is really debatable.
Post this alleged footage of them going through the allegedly not busted gate.
You already posted it.
Would you like a link to the video you posted?
You ing dumbass. I said the majority of bovine methane emissions comes from belches, not farts. Scientific fact, asshole.
you already did. look at 7:09 of the video below
and notice how both the gates (though one is swung open) are still upright, in tact. compare that to the image below, which is clearly after the fact. not excusing the breaking of the gate, but they didnt bust the gate down to get in, clearly
Not what you said. You said, "cows don't fart". I can find it if you want.
The "protestors" threatened to kill their dog.
Isn’t access to a gated community like this restricted to only those that live in the community, those that are invited by the homeowners that live in the community, and workers doing repairs or maintenance on the homes or grounds?
in an upscale gated community like this, isn't there private security to handle this type of situation?
In this situation, I would think it would be safer to stay in the house and turn on the security system as opposed to going outside with weapons.
7:09 indeed.
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