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    Sounds like a great way to piss off both sides of the democratic party.

    Most Bernie supporters don't even like him anymore. I didn't the moment he endorsed Biden.
    I don't know about most, I'm on the Bernie Slack group and he still has a ton of support from his hardcore supporters.

    Plus what was he supposed to do, pull a Teddy Roosevelt and run 3rd Party and split the Democrat vote and give Trump a second term on a platter?

    That would definitely piss off the Democrats!!!

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    Don't women make up a majority of the democratic party? Sounds like that's all they need. Women also vote at a higher rate than men

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    It’s far fetched because of age. A 78 year old can’t pick another 78 year old as his VP.

    I agree about not picking a woman though, he shouldn’t be so worried about sticking to that. Imo Booker is the best VP candidate for him right now and there wouldn’t be a ton of black lash if he picked Booker.
    That is a good point, although what they could do to mitigate that is for both of them to pledge that neither of them will seek the office in 2024 and then have an open primary on the Democrat side. If Biden wins I want for him to do that already and not seek a second term due to his age...

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    Don't women make up a majority of the democratic party? Sounds like that's all they need. Women also vote at a higher rate than men
    White women didn't support the first female candidate, doubt they will do much better with Biden.

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    That is a good point, although what they could do to mitigate that is for both of them to pledge that neither of them will seek the office in 2024 and then have an open primary on the Democrat side. If Biden wins I want for him to do that already and not seek a second term due to his age...
    This post is why he gains nothing from being his VP. You are set on voting for the dem. He needs to pick a woman, and preferably a black woman as his runningmate. Leftists who said they aren't voting for Biden aren't going to change their mind because Bernie is there. Bernie already sold out

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    That is a good point, although what they could do to mitigate that is for both of them to pledge that neither of them will seek the office in 2024 and then have an open primary on the Democrat side. If Biden wins I want for him to do that already and not seek a second term due to his age...
    That could backfire and supress their own vote.

    I mean, Biden already slipped and hinted he won't seek a second term but that is the danger. Supressing your own voters.

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    I don't know about most, I'm on the Bernie Slack group and he still has a ton of support from his hardcore supporters.

    Plus what was he supposed to do, pull a Teddy Roosevelt and run 3rd Party and split the Democrat vote and give Trump a second term on a platter?

    That would definitely piss off the Democrats!!!
    Imo what Bernie should have done this time (and 4 years ago) was announce that he’s going to vote for Biden despite the ideological differences and encourages his supporters to do the same because Biden is better than Trump but he can’t outright endorse someone who’s against progressive ideals the way Biden is. It would have come off as more credible and it wouldn’t look like he’s selling out.

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    Imo what Bernie should have done this time (and 4 years ago) was announce that he’s going to vote for Biden despite the ideological differences and encourages his supporters to do the same because Biden is better than Trump but he can’t outright endorse someone who’s against progressive ideals the way Biden is. It would have come off as more credible and it wouldn’t look like he’s selling out.
    how is saying you're going to vote for somebody and encouraging your supporters to do the same any different than endorsing?

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    Imo what Bernie should have done this time (and 4 years ago) was announce that he’s going to vote for Biden despite the ideological differences and encourages his supporters to do the same because Biden is better than Trump but he can’t outright endorse someone who’s against progressive ideals the way Biden is. It would have come off as more credible and it wouldn’t look like he’s selling out.
    For a Bernie supporter, in the long term Trump winning would be better. The conclusion would be that moderates don't win Democrats elections and the party would shift further left

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    This post is why he gains nothing from being his VP. You are set on voting for the dem. He needs to pick a woman, and preferably a black woman as his runningmate. Leftists who said they aren't voting for Biden aren't going to change their mind because Bernie is there. Bernie already sold out
    I’m still worried that a black female VP candidate puts the suburban white women vote at risk. A lot of suburban white women might not be overtly racist but don’t like seeing black women in positions of authority. I lost count of how many ridiculous and arbitrary criticisms the Karen community had about Mic e Obama, particularly about how she dressed.

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    For a Bernie supporter, in the long term Trump winning would be better. The conclusion would be that moderates don't win Democrats elections and the party would shift further left
    No, not really.

    Long term or short term, a Trump presidency is bad for moderate democrats and progressives alike. There is no up swing here.

    We're beyond bragging rights.

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    This post is why he gains nothing from being his VP. You are set on voting for the dem. He needs to pick a woman, and preferably a black woman as his runningmate. Leftists who said they aren't voting for Biden aren't going to change their mind because Bernie is there. Bernie already sold out
    I'm sorry that you feel that Bernie sold out, I do get that since I wasn't a fan of him endorsing Hillary in 2016 either. But like I said before, what was he supposed to do? Run as the Green Party candidate and split the Democrat vote? And yes a ton of his supporters did want for him to do that, but what I think he's doing is that he feels that the best way to make the changes that he is calling for in his political revolution is to work within the Democratic Party. Our two-party system makes it very difficult for third parties to have much of a chance. Not even former President Teddy Roosevelt could get enough support running third party in 1912 to win.

    But also look at how far to the left Bernie has shifted the conversation about issues such as the minimum wage increase and college affordability. These ideas are obviously resonating and so I don't feel that his efforts have been totally in vain. However, he does caucus with the Democrats so the I next to his name is not really all that important in the scope of party affairs.

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    For a Bernie supporter, in the long term Trump winning would be better. The conclusion would be that moderates don't win Democrats elections and the party would shift further left
    I used to think that but not after the primary this year. Trump beating a moderate in 2016 had the opposite effect. The DNC response was “Well the problem is that Fox News called Hillary a socialist and it worked. If we find the most center right wing, milquetoast Dixiecrat who happens to call himself a Democrat, then Fox News will have no way to criticize him and he’ll win the center!” and primary voters bought into it.

    If Trump wins again the DNC will run Jeb Bush as a Democrat in 2024 and say that Biden was too far to the left and Jeb Bush ensures that the Democrats can win the middle.

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    Head on over to black people twitter and woke twitter and you'll see the full on shill for Biden
    We must be on different Woke Twitters.

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    And imo Monica Lewinsky looks better now than she ever has.

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    And imo Monica Lewinsky looks better now than she ever has.
    Saw that video and gotta disagree. She loosk like she got work done, which isn't bad. She just looked a lot better when she had the whole scandal going

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    And imo Monica Lewinsky looks better now than she ever has.
    Saw that video and gotta disagree. She loosk like she got work done, which isn't bad. She just looked a lot better when she had the whole scandal going

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    I agree bernie is q shill and a spineless cuck

    But cant hate on the man after tweets like this


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    I agree bernie is q shill and a spineless cuck

    But cant hate on the man after tweets like this

    So the republicans are using the pandemic as an excuse to beef up the military? Of course

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    I'm holding out hope Biden picks Donna Brazile as VP, just for the troll factor alone, tbh...

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    So the republicans are using the pandemic as an excuse to beef up the military? Of course
    We will shoot the communist virus dead

    Some posters here were calling for bombing of wuhan


    Our f35 squadron could try. Sure f35 can bqrely shoot straight but i think they ar3 stealthh and the 500k helmets the pilots use could hopefully help navigate them and at least kamikaze into wuhan labs and wetmarkets

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    What do you know? You're too busy on your knees sucking for quarters to support your crack habits.



    She's even better these days. Leaner but still has some thickness to her.
    are you really up in arms because my taste in women is better than yours and ol' slick willy's? next thing you'll tell me is how hillary is a top model.

    dude's who tuck their s into their assholes have no room to talk on matters like this so move along trannyReck!

    as well you've got to be the crackhead because you find that ugly to be hot.

    i ain't no pussy like you are lawyer.
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    i ain't no pussy like you are lawyer.
    yeah, only REAL MEN are fascists

    is that really what you're going with?

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