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    Apologize to the families of the 150k+ instead.
    The China virus?

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    oh.

    then your lack of recognition of what conservatism is equal or lack of recognition of what fascism is
    ok

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    In 2016 he didn't even need to work hard for one of his debates, the post Access Hollywood tape debate he skated through because of how it focused on that, but turns out nobody cares about some old white rich guy doing we expect old white rich guys to do.
    Iirc it was the 2nd debate where the Access Hollywood tape was the topic. By the end of the 3rd debate the topic was “but her emails” and “Trump proved he could be presidential!” Teflon Don outmanuevered Hillary in a big way in the month before the election.

    One big story no one is talking about is how much worse his campaign staff is now. In 2016 Steve Bannon and to a lesser extent Roger Stone were playing chess while Hillary’s campaign was playing Connect Four. Not having Stone or Bannon is definitely hurting him this time around. Not sure how involved Conway is but he should have put the campaign back in her control awhile ago.

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    The China virus?
    yep, the same virus that most other countries have already contained, which allows then to open back up

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    yep, the same virus that most other countries have already contained, which allows then to open back up
    Are you upset Trump is letting the goverors decide?

    Also can you tell me the other countries that have it contained? Should be a lot of them since you said most.

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    Trump is way more ty tho
    Debatable

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    For any rational person looking at what's going on, no it's really not

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    Are you upset Trump is letting the goverors decide?

    Also can you tell me the other countries that have it contained? Should be a lot of them since you said most.
    yes i'm upset that the president of the united states abstained and failed to lead a national effort. a national strategy would have been quite helpful to have a coordinate attempt to beat the virus, instead of having 50 different states doing things on different schedules

    countries that have it contained? germany, south korea, france, italy (yes, even after their abysmal early wave), canada, denmark, norway, finland. even sweden and the uk despite their early herd immunity attempt blunders.
    Last edited by spurraider21; 08-05-2020 at 08:26 PM.

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    yes i'm upset that the president of the united states abstained and failed to lead a national effort. a national strategy would have been quite helpful to have a coordinate attempt to beat the virus, instead of having 50 different states doing things on different schedules

    countries that have it contained? germany, south korea, france, italy (yes, even after their abysmal early wave), canada, denmark, norway, finland. even sweden and the uk despite their early herd immunity attempt blunders.

    Evidently, the best way to "contain" it, is to have many people get it. It's obvious that some of the countries you listed are nearing herd immunity. And lockdown was not the most important factor.

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    New York's numbers look good now. After they got hammered.

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    Evidently, the best way to "contain" it, is to have many people get it. It's obvious that some of the countries you listed are nearing herd immunity. And lockdown was not the most important factor.
    oh yeah, germany, south korea, denmark, norway, finland all had mountains of cases comparable on proportion to the US!

    lockdowns arent necessary if you have good early testing, contact tracing, and quarantines for those infected those identified through contact tracing. i'm sorry that doing nothing wasnt a viable approach

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    oh yeah, germany, south korea, denmark, norway, finland all had mountains of cases comparable on proportion to the US!

    lockdowns arent necessary if you have good early testing, contact tracing, and quarantines for those infected those identified through contact tracing.

    There's obviously something else going on, i.e. some percent of population already immune.

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    There's obviously something else going on, i.e. some percent of population already immune.
    link to people from those countries having a natural immunity?

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    Evidently, the best way to "contain" it, is to have many people get it. It's obvious that some of the countries you listed are nearing herd immunity. And lockdown was not the most important factor.
    South Korea has had 300 deaths total. Are you saying that’s herd immunity?

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    There's obviously something else going on, i.e. some percent of population already immune.
    right, because it’s not like more people wearing masks and taking it seriously together with a government having better testing and contact tracing infrastructure could be the cause. Dear Leader said that’s not it so it must not be it!

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    New York's numbers look good now. After they got hammered.
    I was in Manhattan in late June. It was the twilight zone - roads were empty, the hotel on Time Square I was staying at that’s normally way more than I’d spend on a hotel room was dirt cheap because it was empty, the restaurants only had people sitting outside, and I saw literally no one not wearing a mask other than the friend I visited. Their. numbers look good now because they shut the down and are taking it seriously. If they had herd immunity they wouldn’t be restricting travel from other states.

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    It's insane how simplistic Darrin's knowledge of viral spread is five months in.

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    I was in Manhattan in late June. It was the twilight zone - roads were empty, the hotel on Time Square I was staying at that’s normally way more than I’d spend on a hotel room was dirt cheap because it was empty, the restaurants only had people sitting outside, and I saw literally no one not wearing a mask other than the friend I visited. Their. numbers look good now because they shut the down and are taking it seriously. If they had herd immunity they wouldn’t be restricting travel from other states.
    65% got infected at home

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    Do you think it's the reporter's job to debate Trump since your flawed candidate is incapable?
    Its every reporters job who interviews a president about real issues to ask tough questions.
    But you did not know this as Trump side steps taking real interviews and when he does them, he fails.
    Remember when the WH used to give briefings and presidents would actually put themselves in front of a group of tough reporters and field questions for over 45 seconds? Remember?

    Yeah, well this baby boy cant handle that.

    so you have prosthetic legs to stand on calling on old Joe...
    dumb ...

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    65% got infected at home
    Says who, your non-scientific opinion?

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    65% got infected at home
    So how did they get infected at home?

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    If New York has herd immunity, why is it still locked down? Wouldn’t it want to get its economy going again and open up for business?

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    Ib4 darrin harps on the subway!!!

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    Ib4 darrin harps on the subway!!!
    Hi

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    Ib4 darrin harps on the subway!!!
    DID YOU KNOW Cuomo sent positive COVID patients back to nursing homes!?!!?!?

    (FTR - I’m not even sure why this is a big deal. Senior living facilities in other states have positive COVID residents staying in the building, they’re just quarantined. Sending any nursing home or assisted living resident who tests positive for COVID to the hospital even if they have no symptoms would be a really stupid waste of our healthcare system’s capacity)

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