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    Has that ever been done where there were no presidential debates?
    Pretty much every one before 1960 and three after that.

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    Pretty much every one before 1960 and three after that.
    I'll be damned i did not know that
    And i checked you too

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    Where is this story coming from that Biden won't debate? There are three debates already scheduled.

    https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...rump-schedule/

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    I'll be damned i did not know that
    And i checked you too
    I'd be happy if we could find two people who could debate like Nixon and Kennedy.

    It's all been about finding the right zinger since 1980.

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    Biden was an asshole in the debate versus Ryan.

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    Biden was an asshole in the debate versus Ryan.
    But he was a coherent asshole.

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    He’s already agreed to the debates.

    this tweet is pointless and nonsensical.

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    Where is this story coming from that Biden won't debate? There are three debates already scheduled.

    https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...rump-schedule/
    Out of nowhere. They will happen.

    Trump and Fox News want up to 6 debates though.

    Any sane person would laugh at the notion of having more than the normal amount. Biden’s camp not wanting more than the required debates=he’s afraid.

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    Out of nowhere. They will happen.

    Trump and Fox News want up to 6 debates though.

    Any sane person would laugh at the notion of having more than the normal amount. Biden’s camp not wanting more than the required debates=he’s afraid.
    Why would it be insane to do a fourth or fifth debate? That doesn't make any sense, eunuch.

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    Even the US liberals are pretty right minded, tbh. How else would you explain Sanders losing two straight democrat elections to the worst candidates ever?

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    I love when people try to equate brainless Biden with Trump. The man can't think or speak. The propaganda outlets are currently trying to get him to not debate for that reason.
    You don't know what the you're talking about.

    Watch five minutes of Trump being interviewed. He's an idiot and speaks on a 5th grade level. Doesn't understand nuance. Completely lies about everything. Paints his face orange. Has sex with a porn star while his wife was pregnant and illegally paid her off, it's why his lawyer is in prison. Trump his name a university that ripped off it's students and lost in a class action settlement and folded. Trump started a non-profit that pocketed it's donation and lost in court and can never own a charity again.

    Unless you're in it for the racism.

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    You don't know what the you're talking about.

    Watch five minutes of Trump being interviewed. He's an idiot and speaks on a 5th grade level. Doesn't understand nuance. Completely lies about everything. Paints his face orange. Has sex with a porn star while his wife was pregnant and illegally paid her off, it's why his lawyer is in prison. Trump his name a university that ripped off it's students and lost in a class action settlement and folded. Trump started a non-profit that pocketed it's donation and lost in court and can never own a charity again.

    Unless you're in it for the racism.
    That's one reason. Complaining about en led leftists and minorities is his main pastime here.

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    I love when people try to equate brainless Biden with Trump.
    I agree, not equal at all. Trump is much, much worse. Dementia Joe still has to kill 150K+ Americans to catch up to Trump's inep ude.

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    For the inevitable triggering. Mission accomplished.
    Darrin with the LOL I TROLL U

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    Biden was an asshole in the debate versus Ryan.
    No he wasn’t, Ryan was the asshole for lying to the American people about his horse trickle down tax plan. Biden did a great job calling him out for trying to cut taxes for the rich.

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    I don't think anything has been announced yet, but I can't think anybody being more outraged about a potential lack of debates versus POTUS still not releasing his tax returns... as he promised.
    It would actually be a great idea if Biden says he’ll only debate Trump if Trump releases his tax returns

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    He's also a terrible candidate, tbh
    Depends on whether your definition of terrible is based on policy, personal appeal, or margin of victory. For all his flaws, I can't think of anyone who would poll better against Trump, can you?

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    Depends on whether your definition of terrible is based on policy, personal appeal, or margin of victory. For all his flaws, I can't think of anyone who would poll better against Trump, can you?
    Anyone who’d poll better than Biden? Yes, I think Sherrod Brown would be if the DNC/media got behind him the way its gotten behind Biden. Working class white voters like Brown (he won his last senate race by 7 points even though the gubernational race in Ohio went to the Republican by 5 points) and I think the progressive wing would be more enthusiastic about him than it is about Biden. Imo he’d be up 10+ points on Trump right now. Losing a senate seat would suck but I think Brown would have a big down ballot impact on the senate races in Iowa and Kansas this year (which is actually in play if Kobach wins his primary).

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    Yeah sure I wanna debate this:

    Swan: “Oh, you’re doing death as a proportion of cases. I’m talking about death as a proportion of population. That’s where the U.S. is really bad. Much worse than South Korea, Germany, etc.”

    Trump: “You can’t do that.”

    Swan: “Why can’t I do that?”

    how could anyone possibly moderate Donald Fn Trump?
    We would need a really good Middle school principal as a moderator with the right to paddle him in front of the Nation.

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    This thread really backfired on hater.

    He thinks he can list Joe Biden missteps at the same time we have had to deal with 3+ years of the orange Child “ You touched me first, nah nah...”

    you asked for a hater, you got it.

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    Anyone who’d poll better than Biden? Yes, I think Sherrod Brown would be if the DNC/media got behind him the way its gotten behind Biden. Working class white voters like Brown (he won his last senate race by 7 points even though the gubernational race in Ohio went to the Republican by 5 points) and I think the progressive wing would be more enthusiastic about him than it is about Biden. Imo he’d be up 10+ points on Trump right now. Losing a senate seat would suck but I think Brown would have a big down ballot impact on the senate races in Iowa and Kansas this year (which is actually in play if Kobach wins his primary).
    Possible, but the concern of having a relative unknown is that he's easier to paint as an extremist by the opposition. Being a known commodity benefits Biden because there are only so many people who will buy into the "Biden is a leftist radical" stuff. Brown has low mainstream name recognition, so there's more opportunity to brand him based on a narrative vs. what people have seen with their own eyes.

    Either way, that's one. My point is there aren't many options that you can say with confidence would be up 10%. That's why winning is important and, moreso, election and voter rights reform. Of course, I'd rather a more progressive candidate win by 1% than Biden win by 10%, but the most important thing right now is winning.

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    Possible, but the concern of having a relative unknown is that he's easier to paint as an extremist by the opposition. Being a known commodity benefits Biden because there are only so many people who will buy into the "Biden is a leftist radical" stuff. Brown has low mainstream name recognition, so there's more opportunity to brand him based on a narrative vs. what people have seen with their own eyes.

    Either way, that's one. My point is there aren't many options that you can say with confidence would be up 10%. That's why winning is important and, moreso, election and voter rights reform. Of course, I'd rather a more progressive candidate win by 1% than Biden win by 10%, but the most important thing right now is winning.
    Imo it would be difficult to paint Brown as a radical leftist merely since he’s a midwestern white male and doesn’t have the appearance of an elitist or an academic. I don’t think there are very many voters who’d be convinced a white male who’s won 3 statewide elections in Ohio is an extremist but aren’t convinced black Kenyan Muslim’s running mate is an extremist. Trump’s 35% are going to view anyone with a D by their name as an extremist.

    The “dignity of work” slogan Brown was test driving before he decided not to run would also play really well in a country with double digit unemployment and people in danger of eviction.

    In this instance it might actually be important to win this election by a wider margin so if Biden can do it I’m all for it. Trump will cry fraud no matter how much he loses by, but if he loses in a landslide the GOP will let him die on that hill alone. If he loses because of a state won by <100,000 votes I think we see some House of Cards that the GOP gets behind.
    Last edited by Will Hunting; 08-04-2020 at 09:57 AM.

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    Yeah sure I wanna debate this:

    Swan: “Oh, you’re doing death as a proportion of cases. I’m talking about death as a proportion of population. That’s where the U.S. is really bad. Much worse than South Korea, Germany, etc.”

    Trump: “You can’t do that.”

    Swan: “Why can’t I do that?”

    how could anyone possibly moderate Donald Fn Trump?
    We would need a really good Middle school principal as a moderator with the right to paddle him in front of the Nation.
    Swan acted like one's mental idea of a journalist interrogating a high government official, something journalists very rarely do IRL.

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    yo, semites


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    Oh no... Biden did a blooper.

    Trump... hold my beer.

    37 minutes of sheer blooper. Holy balls.


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