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Nope. It's probably Derozan that won't be here next year. I don't see the Spurs committing long term to him. LMA still has a year on his contract.
Yeah I agree on that still shocked why Poop and others think Murray is a PG? - He was given a good shot and it is not even close to being a decent PG no court vision and his handles and decision making is terrible. But I blame Pop they should have brought him along at SG I think he can make the switch if he buys into it and management finally sees the lights.
One good thing from the bubble is that Rudy came to play and I think that will help him and us get a trade after this season. As far as DEROZZ and LMA if you can get what you want and they agree to the trade then you do it.
Player to let go : Mills, Forbes
Question? Poodle if cheap but it not work a sign or trade. Lyles I think has 5 mill next season but is not guaranteed a decent backup but no way a starting type of guy so keep him one more year.
Trade: LMA, DEROZZ, Rudy, Only if you get something decent.
Nope. It's probably Derozan that won't be here next year. I don't see the Spurs committing long term to him. LMA still has a year on his contract.
If Derozan was out and Aldridge was playing, we'd be asking "Is Derozan the odd man out?" (Indeed, that has already happened before)
Forbes is the obvious one to let go. He's a stop gap SG like Mason Jr and Neal were. Hopefully they don't resign Mills after next year but the organization seems to love him. I see him talking it up with the assistant coaches quite often.
Rudy probably has the most value to a contending team. I can see a contender being interested in adding him to energize their bench.
Although Lonnie still has the longest to go at refining his game into a quality NBA player I honestly think White , Keldon and Lonnie are the only players worth keeping going forward.Everyone else is replaceable and expendable.
Yeah Lyles would have helped us out a lot (especially against 76ers and Denver)- mobile PF. He was playing well before the lockdown and was playing with a starting rotation I hope we never see again.
With Lyles our restart rotation would have been:
Starters: Dejounte, White, DeRozan, Lyles, Poeltl
Bench: Quinn/Beli/Patty, Walker, Keldon, Gay, Eubanks
Lol. This is BULL .
The only true part is what he had with Dame. Who btw, he has patched it up with, even before he left not wanting LMA to leave and since hoping he'd return someday.
Everyone had issues with neph, but not exclusively with LMA.
He and DDR have by their own statements meshed just fine despite their midrange games sometimes coming at odds with one another. And LMA accommodated DDR by moving his game to the arc.
You're truly one of the ignorant ones among us.
LMA was pouting the entire season that Kawhi was the Alpha, then demanded a trade after making the WCF
But he needs his touches!!
Derrick Whites shoots the three better when LA is not on the floor, Danny Green was worse with him on the floor, he stops the ball, he needs to take his shots to get in a rhythm, as he says, he can't create his own shot or for others as much. He has lost a step and can't guard on the four anymore. Do you want me to go on???
Trading LaMarcus for someone like Lauri Markannen would be awesome!
This new fun and gun offense is definitely a revelation, tbh. I think LMA’s done as a Spur after this contract for sure.
He did not.
LMA:
This team doesn't work with LMA. There's a reason that almost all NBA analysts say the Spurs are fun to watch again. The reasons is that LMA is not in the bubble. He can't play at this pace and would take the ball out of the young Spurs hands. They should trade him to get an asset for him. He's a good player, but doesn't fit in the Spurs system anymore.
Demar:
The Spurs wouldn't have won a single game without him. Other than LMA he is willing to step back to give the young guys a run, but steps up when it's necessary. If he opts in I can see him leading the young spurs and being traded to a contender at the tradeline.
Murray:
1-2 seasons without an injury would be nice for him. For now I'm sceptical that he's the solution at the pg-spot, because he makes so many bad decisions on the court. But with his current contract, keep him & see what he's able to bring on the table in the future.
White:
Extend his contract at the level of Murray's contract.
Mills:
Patty isn't going anywhere. No way. He stays with Spurs. Future assistant coach?
Gay:
Could be traded, but depends on other decisions regarding the frontcourt (LMA, Poeltl). With the way he played in the bubble, the Spurs could get something back for him. I'm not sure if that would be the case in a few months.
Forbes:
I would let him go elsewhere, but I can see them giving him a cheap contract if demar opts out.
Belinelli:
I think he returns to Europe after this season.
Poeltl:
He has shown that he fits in well with the other young Spurs. Is he the Spurs future starting 5, who can play 30+ minutes? Not sure about that. But with his actual skillset for sure he can give them 20-25 good minutes with his defense, screens & passing. If he improves his offensive game (shooting) and bulks up a little bit (not too much!), he could be more for them. I think the Spurs will try to keep him, although I'm not sure how much are they willing to spend. I think that he'll get an offer in the 8-12 mil range.
Eubanks: Should get a contract, 2 years. Don't expect him to have a break out, but he plays with energy and has some offensive tools.
Weatherspoon: Should get a chance. If they want to keep Forbes and demar opts in, it could be difficult for him. I would keep Q over Forbes.
Metu: idk. 2-way at best
I agree with folks who say that Demar has been important in the Spurs success in the Restart. He also had a very efficient season and became more and more comfortable in a spread offense. Dude pouts and complains about refereeing and plays mediocre defense but other than that he has been stellar. I like how LMA expanded his offense by shooting threes but he is 35, slower, not quite good at defending in space and inconsistent as a rim protector now.
If the Spurs can trade LMA for a SF/PF like Aaron Gordon (doubtful after Isaac got injured) or maybe even Gordon Hayward (Celtics need a 4/5) and get someone like Harry Giles to backup Poeltl, they should be a playoff contender next season.
White, Murray, DeRozan, Hayward or Gordon/Lyles, Poeltl
Mills, Walker, Keldon, Gay, Giles/Eubanks
Weatherspoon, Samanic, Draft Pick should be a good team.
I agree with this.. he has a track record of chemistry concerns
LMA is obviously the more talented overall, but Jakob is a defensive specialist and isn't going to demand touches.. Considering we have so much talent in the back court and now with Keldon's impending rise, I'd prefer to have defensive first center who won't demand any touches. The preferred outcome here would be Jakob adding a 3 pt shot.. Honestly he should be in the gym shooting 2k threes a day during the off-season.
Agreed. Addition by subtraction.
Although I agreed above that LMA's subtraction has led to better results, Aldridge's 3 point shooting and generally hanging out more around the 3 point line before the lockdown can't be overlooked at the same time. It will be interesting to see what the Spurs front office decide to do going forward, but either way I am just glad that Pop has been shown what this team could do by taking the reigns off the young guys
No he ain't. Aldridge actually needs to be surrounded by 3-point shooters who can dribble drive their way to the rim, since he's not the best passer. A 4-guard line up like we're playing now should benefit him. Also a lot of yall seem to forget that him and White work really really well together as a Big/PG combo.
He played with Bryn Forbes in the line up. Has nothing to do with him being older. Put him out there with Keldon, DJ and White and he won't have any problems. He actually averaged a new career high blocked shots this year
I can't believe we are seriously discussing building around either DDR or LMA... this experiment has failed BIG time! We really wanna build around a 32 year old career choker in DDR?? Trade them BOTH... They can't even bring us to the 8th seed!!! And they're only getting more old and worse
I don't dislike Lyles. But long-term, they need someone more dynamic than him, preferably someone who can pressure a defense on his own. There's a difference between having a good offensive player who can get his own shot but doesn't NEED to have the ball all the time and a guy like DeMar who totally isn't doing anything if he's not dribbling or already at the rim. Can a White, Walker, Johnson, Lyles, Poeltl unit work? Maybe, but no one in the group is a dominant scorer, and that limits their upside. Maybe Walker can be that, but it hasn't been encouraging. From what I can see all of White, Walker and Johnson should have the ability to get 20-plus on a given night, but no one there is going to warp a defense unless Walker gets an alpha mentality all of the sudden. That leaves two options: replacing Poeltl with a dominant post-player center ala Embiid or replacing Lyles with a dynamic stretch-four/combo-forward ala Zion. I personally think the second option is easier to accomplish and that it's not even clear that the first one can still work in today's NBA. In either event, even though I don't dislike either player, I could see both Poeltl and Lyles on different teams next year.
Logically he should be because the spurs can't play the way they played in the bubble with LMA on the floor...he is to plodding, doesn't set good screens, only wants to shoot the ball where he wants to shoot it from instead of in the flow of the offense, and pouts if he doesn't get enough touches... one of the reasons the spurs have been successful in the bubble is the fact that they now get this modern open 3's from ball movement that flat out don't exist when LMA plays because he holds the ball forever and is one of the worst passers I have ever seen...
Also if he plays then one of poeltl, white, murray, walker/ keldon goes to the bench, since him playing is going to slide demar back to the 3 and then one of our young perimeter players to the bench...
I would do everything I could to get rid of LMA...you just can't play modern basketball with him on the floor, he is to slow and his basketball IQ is to low...
They had someone more dynamic. He reneged to go play for the Knicks. Lyles was available. I actually like him more than I expected to. He did all the things people said he wouldn't do. He might have value in a trade. Not excess value, but someone might take him to balance a trade.
The biggest obstacle to the Spurs making a trade is the Spurs making a trade.
He's slightly more dynamic. I don't think the Spurs miss Morris too much on offense. It's the fact that his defense isn't around that hampers the team's upside. For sure, if the Spurs could draft a guy who could provide Morris-like impact, especially right away, it'd be a win. But without the perimeter guys taking bigger-than-can-be-expect steps, it's not enough to just be a super role-player. At least it's not enough if the Spurs want to get into the top have of the Western bracket any time soon.
Lyles is solid, but only as a rotation player at this point. Unless he improves he will be a below-average starter.
I mean, sure he could do fine in a lineup with Curry/Thompson/Durant, but the Spurs need more from their starting 4 to be more than first-round fodder.
Fortunately he will be only 25 at the start of next season so expecting some improvement isn't unreasonable.
The Spurs would be dumb not to shop one or both of them this off season. We're kind of mired in mediocrity with our current personnel.
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