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    Good to see that Pelosi might call Congress back early to investigate this and start issuing subpoenas.

    If I were Trump I’d have Dejoy reverse all the changes he’s made. If this is still a headline story 1 month from now black voters in areas like Philly and Milwaukee are all going to be voting early.
    It's official.


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    It's official.

    That’ll never make it to the floor in the senate but still worth it. They should start issuing subpoenas too if they’re back in session.

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    So, defunding the Police = BAD!

    Defunding the USPS = GOOD!

    Amirite cultists?

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Route_scandal
    Is there a Trump Project out there? If not there should be.

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    So, defunding the Police = BAD!

    Defunding the USPS = GOOD!

    Amirite cultists?
    Yes, socialist police force good. Socialist mail system bad.

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    If you don’t want a socialist USPS fine, but don’t start ing when the USPS has to increase postage charges to and from rural areas exponentially. It’s not the urban areas that are losing money.

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    so after 2000, the Repugs ed up the USPS.

    Heckuva job, dubya.

    btw, early 2001 and early 2017, just after taking office,

    the Repugs had the SAME OBJECTIVE:

    cut taxes on the oligarchy.

    in 2001, Repugs had to use conciliation to ram the cuts through the Senate.

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    What the actual ? Are candidates even allowed to be mailing people absentee ballot applications?


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    If the USPS has to up it's prices in rural areas it's going to be mostly because so many people have stopped depending on them, so they cannot spread the cost out to everyone. I cannot remember the last time I used a stamp to mail something using the USPS. I get it plenty people still do, and for that reason it should remain a viable option to send or receive parcels and letters. If it wasn't for mail the USPS probably goes under a decade ago or more.

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    If you don’t want a socialist USPS fine, but don’t start ing when the USPS has to increase postage charges to and from rural areas exponentially. It’s not the urban areas that are losing money.
    Which is where you find a lot of Trump voters. ing morons gonna shoot themselves in the foot to spite the bad Dems.

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    If the USPS has to up it's prices in rural areas it's going to be mostly because so many people have stopped depending on them, so they cannot spread the cost out to everyone. I cannot remember the last time I used a stamp to mail something using the USPS. I get it plenty people still do, and for that reason it should remain a viable option to send or receive parcels and letters. If it wasn't for mail the USPS probably goes under a decade ago or more.
    Great anecdote that is worth nothing.

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    If the USPS has to up it's prices in rural areas it's going to be mostly because so many people have stopped depending on them, so they cannot spread the cost out to everyone. I cannot remember the last time I used a stamp to mail something using the USPS. I get it plenty people still do, and for that reason it should remain a viable option to send or receive parcels and letters. If it wasn't for mail the USPS probably goes under a decade ago or more.
    Great timing.

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    Looks like they knew how to make a buck before subsidization culture kicked in.

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    The USPS and it's previous reincarnations used to make a lot of money, especially through postal banking. It got so good, that bankers demanded the creation of the FDIC so they too could offer government protection on deposits.

    Once that happened, Congress completely gutted the USPS. Ended postal banking, and demanded they fund their pensions way more than even private companies do.

    They've been sabotaged for a while, tbh, mostly because it s on the dogma that government can't run a business efficiently and compete with the private sector.

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    there's always a tweet


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    The USPS and it's previous reincarnations used to make a lot of money, especially through postal banking. It got so good, that bankers demanded the creation of the FDIC so they too could offer government protection on deposits.

    Once that happened, Congress completely gutted the USPS. Ended postal banking, and demanded they fund their pensions way more than even private companies do.

    They've been sabotaged for a while, tbh, mostly because it s on the dogma that government can't run a business efficiently and compete with the private sector.
    So the government on the concept that it cannot run a business by ting on the fact that they can? Somehow that makes the government competent? Who exactly are you talking about? It's like saying a guy committed suicide to prevent people from knowing he was suicidal.

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    So the government on the concept that it cannot run a business by ting on the fact that they can? Somehow that makes the government competent? Who exactly are you talking about? It's like saying a guy committed suicide to prevent people from knowing he was suicidal.
    Congress and the Postal Service are separate en ies, and I think you're well aware of that. While both are under the same umbrella of government, it doesn't mean they're the same thing.

    I specifically mentioned Congress, and I can't pin it on a specific party because they've both had full control of the chambers in different periods.

    Any other clarifications you need on my post?

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    So the government on the concept that it cannot run a business by ting on the fact that they can? Somehow that makes the government competent? Who exactly are you talking about? It's like saying a guy committed suicide to prevent people from knowing he was suicidal.
    Yeah the postal service is only a business for the government.

    For profit. And they can refuse to deliver to your house, instead, they use your neighbor.
    I want the government to pick a private company (chosen by the president) to deliver, receive, and count ballots.

    Thank you,
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    PS We wish to keep governing and we are more than willing to tell you directly we don’t want Democrats voting and if the postal strategy works we, the red team, are fine with that.




    The orange man told the US his strategy straight out and red cucks (since you adopted that word) agree with the strategy.

    USA.... kiss the flag.

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    142.5 billion pieces of mail

    The idea that the Postal Service will not be able to handle the volume of mail in the election, or not be able to handle it within normal Postal Service time guidelines, does not make much sense. According to its most recent annual report, last year, in fiscal year 2019, the Postal Service handled 142.5 billion pieces of mail. "On a typical day, our 633,000 employees physically process and deliver 471 million mailpieces to nearly 160 million delivery points," the report says. This year, that number is higher, given the Postal Service's delivery of census forms and stimulus checks. Those alone added about 450 million additional pieces of mail.

    In 2016, about 136 million Americans voted in the presidential election. The number will probably be a bit higher this year. If officials sent ballots to every single American registered to vote, about 158 million people, and then 140 million people returned ballots, the roughly 298 million pieces of mail handled over the course of several weeks would be well within the Postal Service's ability to handle. Of course, officials will not send a ballot to every American registered to vote, and not every voter will vote by mail. Whatever the final number is, the ballots that are cast by mail will not cripple a system that delivers 471 million pieces of mail every day.

    There are, of course, compelling examples of election dysfunction, most notably the mess New York made of some of its congressional primaries this summer. But rather than representing a Postal Service problem, that was because some states are unprepared for a dramatic increase of voting by mail. The states have to prepare the ballots, address them, and process and count them when the Postal Service delivers them. That is the focus of the entirely legitimate fears of a possible vote-counting disaster this year. But it's not the Postal Service.

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    Nightmare scenarios

    Many news accounts have included stories of Americans suffering from interruptions in Postal Service deliveries. For example, a story in the New York Times headlined "Postal Crisis Ripples Across Nation As Election Looms" included the story of Victoria Brownworth, a freelance journalist in Philadelphia. "For Ms. Brownworth, who was paralyzed four years ago, the mail is her lifeline," the New York Times said, "delivering prescriptions and checks and mail-in ballots to her Philadelphia home. But that lifeline has snapped. She said she had received mail just twice in the past three weeks, and she dreaded November's election, worried that her ballot would suffer the same fate as the oxygen tube that she ordered three weeks ago — and that had still not arrived."

    Other news reports have included many other examples. They are largely, if not entirely, anecdotal. While each is serious for the person involved, at the moment, it is impossible to tell how much of a national problem they represent. People who keep track of the Postal Service suspect that many of the stories are rooted in workforce availability problems related to the coronavirus pandemic, plus the changes in operations (for example, closing a facility to clean it during an outbreak) that have become part of life during the pandemic. The Postal Service would not be the only large organization that has found it impossible to operate as usual during the crisis.

    There is also the fact that the Postal Service does, on occasion, fail to deliver the mail. In its annual reports, it includes data on "performance outcomes." For example, for first-class mail, which is the type of mail that would be most employed for election purposes, the goal in fiscal year 2019 was to deliver 96% of letters in one to three business days. Its actual performance was 92%. So 8% of first-class letters were not delivered on time. Now, consider that the Postal Service handled 54.9 billion pieces of first-class mail in fiscal year 2019. That is more than 4 billion pieces of first-class mail that were not delivered on time. And that, in a fraught political situation, could be the basis for a lot of anecdotes in news articles.

    Many of those anecdotes, by the way, appear to have made it to the media with the help of the Postal Service unions. There are two major unions representing Postal Service workers. On Friday, the largest postal union, the National Association of Letter Carriers, endorsed Democratic candidate Joe Biden for president. In June, another union, the American Postal Workers Union, endorsed Biden as well. In 2016, both unions endorsed Hillary Clinton. In 2008 and 2012, both unions endorsed Barack Obama. In 2004, they endorsed John Kerry. And so on.

    One more note about delivery times. A few days ago, the Washington Post published a story headlined "Postal Service warns 46 states their voters could be disenfranchised by delayed mail-in ballots." The paper obtained letters from Postal Service leadership to various states informing them that some of their election deadlines are "incongruous with the Postal Service's delivery standards." The resulting "mismatch," the Postal Service said, "creates a risk that ballots requested near the deadline under state law will not be returned by mail in time to be counted under your laws as we understand them." In other words, several states are not giving the Postal Service long enough to deliver a ballot to a voter and then deliver the filled-in ballot to the state election board. For example, if a state's law allows a voter to request a ballot seven days before the general election but also requires that votes must be received by election day to be counted — that would be a recipe for a lot of votes not being counted. It was an entirely reasonable concern on the part of the Postal Service, and it is a problem more for the states than the Postal Service. Yet media discussion of the story suggested it was just another chapter in what one source in the Washington Post account called "the weaponization of the U.S. Postal Service for the president's electoral purposes."

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...he-post-office


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