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You act like they haven't paid for that sh** already; let alone aren't being squeezed for more.
It would be hilarious if those screenings wouldn't cost $100+ a pop, thanks to the out of control healthcare system we have in America.
Screenings Galore
You act like they haven't paid for that sh** already; let alone aren't being squeezed for more.
Well, they were squeezed for it pre-Obamacare. That's exactly what I'm pointing out.
And, if you ever been around old people, you would know the get screened for everything after they're 50 or so.
You're pointing out cheap tokens. Medicare costs went way up relative to those "expansions".
BTW, I'm in agreement that Obamacare was a piece of legislation. However, it was also very conveniently crafted to appease certain sectors, like seniors, big pharma, etc... which in a lot of ways is part of the reason it never controlled costs, and that made it ty.
That's why despite being , it's still extremely popular today.
No, I'm stating facts. You don't have to like that it's not just a 'gym membership', that's your problem.
Your "facts" don't disregard that Obama only raised costs on seniors big league.
???? link?
You gonna cry fold if I don't?
No way you're showing me that costs didn't go up.
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It's your claim, not mine. You're the one that has to explain where you got that from.
When you asked me to present how medicare was expanded, I substantiated my claim.
You substantiate that you're selling a crap bill of goods is all.
Not sure why you're mad, but your walking away from your own claim is noted.
I think you're forgetting who had what claim.
You haven't substantiated that claim whatsoever.
I didn't forget a thing. You keep saying Obamacare raised cost on seniors, but presented nothing but opinion and personal attacks.
Of course I did. I listed a number of services that are now fully covered by Medicare, which were not prior to Obamacare.
https://www.ehealthmedicare.com/abou...beneficiaries/
You can also add the closing of the donut hole on Medicare Part D, and seniors automatically getting the mandated Minimum Essential Coverage through medicare.
Again, I don't like obamacare, but I don't need to lie about it.
No, you just parroted government propaganda.
Do you have the stats to show that the medicare recipient's costs didn't go up?
Cos if not, then it's not "free".
Why are you making up? I linked a private insurer. Quote me linking to any government source... I'll wait.
That's not how this works. The claim that costs went up for medicare recipients is your claim. You go and grab the stats that support your claim.
If you don't feel like it, and this is another one of your gut feelings, then we'll take it for what it is.
Funny how derp now forgets that republicans have been running govt for close to four years and now his political party’s govt propaganda is bad.
Medicare is a govt. program. I don't care what hairs your splitting.
You haven't shown that your sh** has improved the cost of care. I've seen nothing that supports that either.
That's not the claim I made. Try again.
Your claim is Medicare was effectively improved under Obama.
But effective somehow excludes cost to the consumer (and the taxpayer) as you mindlessly tout "free sh**!!!"
Nope, here's my claim, so you can stop making stuff up:
Your claim was that the cost to medicare recipients went up (due to Obamacare), but you keep dodging backing it up.
We'll just assume you're lying, and move on.
american politics has colloquially adopted "liberal" into meaning "left" such that "more liberal" means "farther left" even though it's not technically accurate, as you have pointed out.
in the online political sphere, "leftists" aka socialists or social democrats will almost use liberal as a slur to describe more moderate democrats like biden/kamala...
Get a hold of yourself derp.
That is why you do not know the difference between "you are" and "your" - see bold above.
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