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    If a DeRozan deal happens, I really hope it looks something like:

    Dallas Gets: Danny Green


    Spurs Gets: Lakers 2020 1st (28th pick), Dallas 2020 1st (18th pick), Hardaway Jr. and Kyle Kuzma


    Lakers Gets: DeRozan
    why dallas would do that?? thats a lot for a danny

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    Hardaway Jr also sucks. Just saying.

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    Dallas would rather have Hardaway and the first round pick over getting Danny Green.

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    Also, the time to keep Danny was two years ago not when he's older and making more money. The Spurs also have better players on rookie contracts that play his position. There is nothing on the Lakers roster outside of AD and Bron that should be of any interest to the Spurs

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    Richardson is barely a worse shooter, while better in every other aspect of the game.
    Pop didn't seem to care about it all this time using an even worse player as a starter (Forbes), perhaps the "3pt shooting" factor has a disproportionately greater value than any other quality in the current league, it would be good to win a trade for the first time after many years.

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    Richardson is barely a worse shooter, while better in every other aspect of the game.
    Richardson did not work out as the back up PG. His ball handling skills are lacking. And he is a significantly worse shooter. Last year he shot 34.1% from 3 and 42.6% overall while Mills was 38.2% and 53.3% respectively. Richardson PER 13.7, Mills 14.8. So whether they keep Simmons or trade for Hardin they will need a back up point guard which Patty can do just fine. Richardson is the vastly superior defender, but when has Morey put any emphasis on that? Not to mention he is a stray peanut away from a career ending injury.

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    DeRozan to the Lakers is basically a thank you to DeRozan. It's garbage to us, but consistent with the Spurs "suck off players to preserve free agency good will".

    la is basically LeBron too, who pop likes generally. The tampering ass hat was magic J (although LeBron is a tamperer as well)

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    Yahoo Sources: Utah Jazz guard Mike Conley Jr. will bypass free-agency next week by not exercising “early termination option” on his $34.5 million salary for the 2020-21 season.

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    Yahoo Sources: Utah Jazz guard Mike Conley Jr. will bypass free-agency next week by not exercising “early termination option” on his $34.5 million salary for the 2020-21 season.

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    Amazing that kuzma has gotten so underrated. With his skills and size, he's easily more valuable than DeTrash. He's also improved his defense this past year and shoot really well in the bubble

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    People are focusing too much on Danny Green. He's just filler. It's Kyle for DeMar.

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    People are focusing too much on Danny Green. He's just filler. It's Kyle for DeMar.
    Would be nice if LA threw in their first or a future first.

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    DeRozan to the Lakers is basically a thank you to DeRozan. It's garbage to us, but consistent with the Spurs "suck off players to preserve free agency good will".

    la is basically LeBron too, who pop likes generally. The tampering ass hat was magic J (although LeBron is a tamperer as well)
    This. I worry about any Derozan trade because, as you alluded to, Pop's #1 priority will be make sure that Derozan's mental well-being is okay. He basically will have a de facto no trade clause considering he's been a good soldier these last 2 years

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    I haven't looked at the numbers to see how the contracts would shake out. But Detroit, ATL, NYK, and ORL seems to make sense to me as possible Derozan destinations.

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    There is zero chance we swap Richardson for Mills straight up thats a diabolical trade on every account. Richardsons a starter in this league Mills is a 32 year old bench player Morey isn't dumb.

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    So we wouldn’t trade nephew to the Lakers for an extremely much better offer, but now we are excited to trade Derozan for, what, the worst part of Magic’s purported trade offer at the time, along with getting Danny Green back? That is depressing.

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    here's one of the main reason why people beleive that Mills for Richardson can be done.
    1. Both are on an Expiring contract
    2. Mills fits in perfectly with 76ers and next to simmons
    3. he's the Backup pg for them
    4. they have a shot at resigning him, if it works out
    5. Richardson doesn't fit well with the 76ers
    6. They wouldn't be able to resign him.
    6. so, 76ers either just let him walk or get a player back that fits there system.

    Here's the issue, just what is Richardson value?
    But if it's a Mills for Richardson deal i would do it.

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    here's one of the main reason why people beleive that Mills for Richardson can be done.
    1. Both are on an Expiring contract
    2. Mills fits in perfectly with 76ers and next to simmons
    3. he's the Backup pg for them
    4. they have a shot at resigning him, if it works out
    5. Richardson doesn't fit well with the 76ers
    6. They wouldn't be able to resign him.
    6. so, 76ers either just let him walk or get a player back that fits there system.

    Here's the issue, just what is Richardson value?
    But if it's a Mills for Richardson deal i would do it.
    Signifcantly more than Patty Mills.

    You'd have to throw in 12th pick imo

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    So we wouldn’t trade nephew to the Lakers for an extremely much better offer, but now we are excited to trade Derozan for, what, the worst part of Magic’s purported trade offer at the time, along with getting Danny Green back? That is depressing.
    spurs should really be in yr 3 rebuild tbh

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    Probably trade 21 for 11. Only thing that makes remote sense.

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    here's one of the main reason why people beleive that Mills for Richardson can be done.
    1. Both are on an Expiring contract
    2. Mills fits in perfectly with 76ers and next to simmons
    3. he's the Backup pg for them
    4. they have a shot at resigning him, if it works out
    5. Richardson doesn't fit well with the 76ers
    6. They wouldn't be able to resign him.
    6. so, 76ers either just let him walk or get a player back that fits there system.

    Here's the issue, just what is Richardson value?
    But if it's a Mills for Richardson deal i would do it.
    Philly is also in East. I think that is a plus. I think dealing with Morey is a plus. Morey loves making his countless trades.

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    Probably trade 21 for 11. Only thing that makes remote sense.
    That makes sense. Mills+11 for Richardson+21.

    Then shipping out 21 in a trade with Aldridge for 2, and taking on Wiggins would make more sense. 11 is too much.

    No better year for a rebuild than one where fans probably will be limited at games anyway.

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    Richardson has a $11.6M player option for 2021-2022 by what I'm seeing. Mills for Richardson does give Philly some cap/tax relief next summer, so it's not that lopsided of a deal imo.

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    That makes sense. Mills+11 for Richardson+21.

    Then shipping out 21 in a trade with Aldridge for 2, and taking on Wiggins would make more sense. 11 is too much.

    No better year for a rebuild than one where fans probably will be limited at games anyway.
    Hmm, you risk GSW not being content with 21 and/or getting a better offer in that time frame, then being stuck having traded down to 21. I'd rather do the deal (with GSW) straight-up, or try to include other pieces to send out to Philly (a second rounder maybe) instead of using #11 in the deal.

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    Hmm, you risk GSW not being content with 21 and/or getting a better offer in that time frame, then being stuck having traded down to 21. I'd rather do the deal (with GSW) straight-up, or try to include other pieces to send out to Philly (a second rounder maybe) instead of using #11 in the deal.
    Hear what you’re saying and don’t want to risk a bigger trade with a small one.

    If you have the GSW deal done in principal, you could always loop in the Sixers as a third team. Easier to make salaries in/out match that way. But Warriors probably hold off until last minute for best possible offer.

    Another version if Philly is desperate to get off Horford given fit with Embiid:

    Spurs: Horford + #2

    Philly: Wiggins + Mills + Looney

    GSW: Aldridge + Richardson


    If dealing LMA, would much rather have Horford than Wiggins, though others here may disagree. And taking on Horford instead of Wiggins could save the Spurs from trading 11.

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