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    Did you just put "John Wall" and "in contention" in the same sentence??
    Well, i'm not saying he will be great or anything but my point is that Houston has not shown signs of blowing up the team which is what they would do if they were to get rid of Harden. Wall seems to be the next player Houston wants to try pairing with Harden and Harden seems to be on board with the signing. Who knows maybe Wall needed a change of scenery and will do well in Houston? Its a long shot on Houston's part but maybe the only shot they had to try to contend for another year. If this doesn't work though, Houston is ed.

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    Well, i'm not saying he will be great or anything but my point is that Houston has not shown signs of blowing up the team which is what they would do if they were to get rid of Harden. Wall seems to be the next player Houston wants to try pairing with Harden and Harden seems to be on board with the signing. Who knows maybe Wall needed a change of scenery and will do well in Houston? Its a long shot on Houston's part but maybe the only shot they had to try to contend for another year. If this doesn't work though, Houston is ed.
    They can't blow it up because they own their 2021 pick 1-4 protected to OKC.

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    Well, i'm not saying he will be great or anything but my point is that Houston has not shown signs of blowing up the team which is what they would do if they were to get rid of Harden. Wall seems to be the next player Houston wants to try pairing with Harden and Harden seems to be on board with the signing. Who knows maybe Wall needed a change of scenery and will do well in Houston? Its a long shot on Houston's part but maybe the only shot they had to try to contend for another year. If this doesn't work though, Houston is ed.
    Ok, that's fair. Lots more teams think they are in contention than actually are, and it makes sense that Houston thinks so because they have one of the few legit MVP candidates in the league.

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    Yeah no, bro. Lavine is not even close to a good player. I don't dislike Porter, but he and Lavine aren't even neutral value together. I have this as a clear, clear loss for SA.
    FiveThirtyEight Raptor WAR

    89T 3.3 DeMar DeRozan
    108T 2.8 Deandre Ayton, Dwight Howard, Zach Lavine, Kelly Oubre Jr., Tomas Satoransky
    119T 2.5 LaMarcus Aldridge

    LaVine rates
    +1.2 Offense slight drop from +1.3 the previous year, -0.7 two years ago and +0.8 three years ago.
    -1.4 Defense big improvement over -2.3 the previous year, -2.3 two years ago and -2.4 three years ago.

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    FiveThirtyEight Raptor WAR

    89T 3.3 DeMar DeRozan
    108T 2.8 Deandre Ayton, Dwight Howard, Zach Lavine, Kelly Oubre Jr., Tomas Satoransky
    119T 2.5 LaMarcus Aldridge

    LaVine rates
    +1.2 Offense slight drop from +1.3 the previous year, -0.7 two years ago and +0.8 three years ago.
    -1.4 Defense big improvement over -2.3 the previous year, -2.3 two years ago and -2.4 three years ago.
    If you ever want to see a lot of in-the-red negatives (literally every number), check out DeRozan's On Court and On/Off playoff numbers:

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...derozde01.html


    These are the kinds of numbers that make statisticians go back and double check their work for fear they've nodded off and made multiple mistakes while adding them up.

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    If you ever want to see a lot of in-the-red negatives (literally every number), check out DeRozan's On Court and On/Off playoff numbers:

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...derozde01.html


    These are the kinds of numbers that make statisticians go back and double check their work for fear they've nodded off and made multiple mistakes while adding them up.
    The link show some red, but is mostly positive.
    +2.3 VORP
    +7.3 WS
    +118 Offensive Rating.

    Defense, no argument.

    DeRozan is a good NBA player, good enough to be a starter.
    $14M good, not $27M good.

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    The link show some red, but is mostly positive.
    +2.3 VORP
    +7.3 WS
    +118 Offensive Rating.

    Defense, no argument.

    DeRozan is a good NBA player, good enough to be a starter.
    $14M good, not $27M good.
    Look specifically at the Playoff on Court/ Playoff On/Off chart. It's entirely in the negative. Opposing coaches & teams know how to make DeRozan useless in the playoffs.

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    L M F A O

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    Utah's Mike Conley said today he's one of two Jazz players to test positive for the coronavirus and is currently in quarantine The Jazz, like Washington and Charlotte, were among the teams able to have their first group practice today after getting everyone into testing early

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    Any news on a DD and white extension?

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    Hey ladies, I have a friend and he's single...


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    man if Bol Bol pans out the Nuggets will be nasty. They were smart taking those high risk picks

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    Rockets fans aren't the only ones melting down right now, Bucks fans are too. They're irritated as at Giannis for not signing yet. Not saying he won't, but the delay is su ious

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    That’s pretty good for DD, considering the relative low volume of 3s the Spurs shoot.

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    NBA coaches are no longer required to wear a sports coats during games, sources tell @ZachLowe_NBA and me. Coaches must wear business attire (no track pants during games). Coaches must wear facemasks during games, sources said.
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    This team will be dangerous next season, compared to other pretenders (New Orleans, Memphis, Jazz, Blazers, Pels)

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    Jrue needed to be a Spur forever ago. His defense is a sight to behold.

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    This boy Pat has the look of a future star.

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    Zion still a fatass. How disappointing.

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    He gone.

    What can we realistically offer in a S&T?

    Murray + Luka + first round picks?
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    If I understand correctly,

    Teams with cap space next year for Giannis:

    Knicks
    Spurs
    Thunder
    Bulls
    Grizzlies
    Cavs
    Raptors

    Only threat I see are the Raptors.

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    He gone.

    What can we realistically offer in a S&T?

    Murray + Luka + first round picks?
    Something like that...two of the younger guys (maybe they want a DDR too)... and a two or 3 1st's.... it just depends if they will want to move him quickly as to what teams would send back.

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