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    Why Not: His ability to play as a stretch big could be compromised by a lack of passing instincts. Has poor court vision and slow processing speed. Athletically, he has some flaws. He has slow-ish feet and stiff hips, which makes it difficult for him to close out on the perimeter. His body is top heavy, which will likely stop him from being a post-up threat. Unless he can become more fluid, might be relegated to center.

    After going back to the original timvp scouting report, I think he sees what I see but, says it more concretely. Stiff hips and slow-is feet make it hard to stay with perimeter players. With that said, I'd still be happy with him at 11. I can see him meshing well with the young guns on the team.

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    Why Not: His ability to play as a stretch big could be compromised by a lack of passing instincts. Has poor court vision and slow processing speed. Athletically, he has some flaws. He has slow-ish feet and stiff hips, which makes it difficult for him to close out on the perimeter. His body is top heavy, which will likely stop him from being a post-up threat. Unless he can become more fluid, might be relegated to center.

    After going back to the original timvp scouting report, I think he sees what I see but, says it more concretely. Stiff hips and slow-is feet make it hard to stay with perimeter players. With that said, I'd still be happy with him at 11. I can see him meshing well with the young guns on the team.
    It's a question mark, for sure. Refer to the first page of this thread where I posted 10 clips about this.

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    It's a question mark, for sure. Refer to the first page of this thread where I posted 10 clips about this.
    I know he's your boy! It is hard to miss those clips.
    I like him, too. I see something different in his fluidity that might be exposed at a higher level, that's all.
    That said, Duncan could be a tremendous asset in his development. His energy with Keldon would be awesome.
    It never hurts to have a strong rebounder who can shoot the 3.

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    Freshman year Tim Duncan vs Freshman year Jalen Smith...

    Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS SOS
    1993-94 Wake Forest ACC 33 32 30.2 3.6 6.7 0.545 3.6 6.6 0.543 0 0 1 2.5 3.3 0.745 9.6 0.9 0.4 3.8 1.2 2.5 9.8 7.84
    2018-19 Maryland Big Ten 33 33 26.7 4.4 8.9 0.492 3.8 6.8 0.563 0.6 2.2 0.268 2.3 3.5 0.658 2.7 4.1 6.8 0.9 0.4 1.2 1.2 2 11.7 10.09


    Sop re year Tim Duncan vs Sop re year Jalen Smith...

    Season School Conf G GS MP FG FGA FG% 2P 2PA 2P% 3P 3PA 3P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS SOS
    1994-95 Wake Forest ACC 32 32 36.5 6.5 11 0.591 6.4 10.8 0.594 0.1 0.2 0.429 3.7 5 0.742 12.5 2.1 0.4 4.2 2.8 2.4 16.8 10.83
    2019-20 Maryland Big Ten 31 31 31.3 5.4 10.1 0.538 4.4 7.3 0.604 1 2.8 0.368 3.6 4.8 0.75 3.2 7.3 10.5 0.8 0.7 2.4 1.7 2.4 15.5 10.5

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    Official measurements for Jalen Smith, in comparison to Luka's combine measurements

    Body Fat% Hand Length Hand Width Height W/O Shoes Height W Shoes Standing Reach Weight Wingspan
    Jalen Smith PF-C 3.70% 9.25 9.25 6'9.25'' 6'10.25'' 9'2.00'' 224.6 7'2.25''
    Luka Samanic PF 5.60% 8.5 9 6' 9.5'' 6' 11'' 8' 11'' 227.2 6' 10.5''

    Our future front court???
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    Lookin' good.

    Hopefully Spurs get him.

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    Jalen Smith measurements compared to other past PF's and C's:

    Body Fat% Hand Length Hand Width Height W/O Shoes Height W Shoes Standing Reach Weight Wingspan
    Jalen Smith PF-C 3.70% 9.25 9.25 6'9.25'' 6'10.25'' 9'2.00'' 224.6 7'2.25''
    Chris Bosh PF 8.00% - - 6' 10.25'' 9' 1'' 225 7' 3.5''
    Nicolas Claxton C 4.50% 9.25 9.5 6' 10'' 6' 11.75'' 9' 2'' 216.6 7' 2.5''
    Jaxson Hayes PF 5.00% 9.25 10.5 6' 10.25'' 6' 11.5'' 9' 2.5'' 218.6 7' 3.5''
    Darius Bazley PF 3.60% 9 9.75 6' 7.75'' 6' 9'' 8' 11'' 208.4 7' 0''
    P.J. Washington PF 8.60% 9 10.25 6' 6.5'' 6' 8'' 8' 10.5'' 230.4 7' 2.25''
    Jaren Jackson PF-C 7.20% 10 10 6' 9.75'' 6' 11.25'' 9' 2'' 236 7' 5.25''
    Michael Porter SF-PF 6.40% 8.75 9.25 6' 9.5'' 6' 10.75'' 9' 0.5'' 211 7' 0.25''
    Chimezie Metu PF-C 5.05% 9 9.25 6' 8.5'' 6' 9.5'' 9' 0'' 219.6 7' 0.5''
    Bam Adebayo PF-C 5.20% 9.5 8.75 6' 8.75'' 6' 9.75'' 9' 0'' 242.6 7' 2.75''
    Pascal Siakam PF 5.20% 9.25 10 6' 8.25'' 6' 9.5'' 8' 11.5'' 226.6 7' 3.25''
    Jakob Poeltl C 5.80% 9.25 10.25 7' 0.25'' 7' 1'' 9' 3.5'' 239 7' 2.75''
    Myles Turner C-PF 9.30% 9.25 9.25 6' 9.75'' 6' 11.5'' 9' 4'' 238.6 7' 4''
    Trey Lyles PF 12.10% 9.25 10.25 6' 9'' 6' 10.25'' 9' 0'' 241.2 7' 1.5''
    Montrezl Harrell PF 11.90% 9 9.75 6' 7'' 6' 7.5'' 9' 1'' 253.4 7' 4.25''
    Aaron Gordon PF 5.05% 8.75 10.5 6' 7.5'' 6' 8.75'' 8' 9'' 220.1 6' 11.75''
    Robert Covington SF-PF 4.70% 9 8.5 6' 6.25'' 6' 7.5'' 8' 10'' 208.6 7' 1.75''
    Andre Drummond C 7.50% 9.5 9.5 6' 9.75'' 6' 11.75'' 9' 1.5'' 278.6 7' 6.25''
    Anthony Davis PF-C 7.90% 9 8.5 6' 9.25'' 6' 10.5'' 9' 0'' 221.8 7' 5.5''
    Draymond Green PF-SF 11.30% 9 9.5 6' 5.75'' 6' 7.5'' 8' 9'' 235.6 7' 1.25''
    Tristan Thompson PF 6.20% 8.75 9.25 6' 7.5'' 6' 8.75'' 9' 0.5'' 227.4 7' 1.25''
    Marcus Morris PF-SF 8.00% 8.25 8.5 6' 7'' 6' 8.75'' 8' 9.5'' 229.6 6' 10''
    LaMarcus Aldridge PF-C 8.70% - - 6' 10'' 6' 11.25'' 9' 2'' 234 7' 4.75''
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    The 3.70% body fat is eye popping. Dude is an absolute work horse.

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    The 3.70% body fat is eye popping. Dude is an absolute work horse.
    Complete opposite of someone like Zion or DeJuan Blair. His metabolism is more like Rodman's. His trainer is feeding him french fries and twinkies.

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    Official measurements for Jalen Smith, in comparison to Luka's combine measurements

    Our future front court???
    Subscribe. Some solid measurements for the both of them... Luka and Jalen as a modern frontcourt, stretch 4&5, would be awesome to see if the both of them pan out. They have a lot of potential as both project to be volume shooters from deep, and (if Luka keeps on putting muscle) could switch to both positions on defense. Hopefully the Spurs don't have to give up #11 if they do trade up, I'd love to have Smith on the team.

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    damn, luka is taller than jalen :o

    btw pretty nice measurements from jalen, this body fat % looks impressive

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    HYPE!!!

    This is the same thing they did with Kawhi.

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    HYPE!!!

    This is the same thing they did with Kawhi.

    Sugus
    I'd prefer the Spurs to do this after they pick him.

    I do wonder if and how high the Spurs would have to trade up to assure themselves of getting him, if he really is their guy.

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    I'd prefer the Spurs to do this after they pick him.

    I do wonder if and how high the Spurs would have to trade up to assure themselves of getting him, if he really is their guy.
    I think he'll be there at 11.... I'd be happy with him or Nesmith assuming a bigger fish doesn't fall...

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    I'd be hyped if we pick Jalen, cause I think he's a sleeper. Not sure if you need to use the 11th pick on him though, he seems to be in the 15-20 range

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Both Patrick Williams and Jalen Smith said they preferred not to name the teams they have worked out for.</p>&mdash; Keith Smith (@KeithSmithNBA) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1326953162306179081?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    GD I’m never gonna learn how to attach the link but the tweet says both Patrick Williams and Jalen Smith didn’t want to say who they have worked out for because of promises to draft them

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    HYPE!!!

    This is the same thing they did with Kawhi.

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    IT'S HAPPENING!!! or close to, at least...

    I'm still on the fence on what I'd like the Spurs to do regarding the draft though, because I don't know if I'd rather have the Spurs trade up into the lottery, but lose #11, or just get some solid frontcourt depth at #11 and try to make other trades to gather more picks. I'd absolutely love Jalen, but the temptation of lottery-level talent without having to tank for it is also huge...

    All that said, it's great to see the Spurs and Smith interacting. I've been getting higher on him through the last month or so, and his solid combine measurements are just icing on the cake. No doubt he'd be good value at #11.

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    My choice if we keep the 11th pick.

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    HYPE!!!

    This is the same thing they did with Kawhi.

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    This is reaching the point of absurdity.

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    This is reaching the point of absurdity.
    Good

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    “My lateral quickness, that’s been a main focus this offseason, making sure everything is more fluid, working on my footwork. Being able to guard a lot of guards that came through the gym during the summer has been helping me a lot.”

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    “My lateral quickness, that’s been a main focus this offseason, making sure everything is more fluid, working on my footwork. Being able to guard a lot of guards that came through the gym during the summer has been helping me a lot.”

    yeah, I heard this and his college coach interview on NBA radio a couple of days ago. It’s good that he knows he has to improve on his lateral movement and is working on getting better before the draft.

    his coach talked about how hard he worked to get more muscle and improve his shooting and how Jalen being a military kid assist in his hard working process

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    Those handles and that beautiful shot off the dribble

    OOoooOooOoOOoWeEeEEeEEeEe

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    Really hope we draft this kid. I like him a lot more than Patrick Williams.

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    Got the juice!?!??

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