The debates thread

[Trainwreck2100]

"the idiots"

That's very specific!

will it cost him votes? yes or no?

[Reck]

Doesn't mean I take no interest in them.

But I get if you want to take your ball and go home. You're in a huff a lot lately.

I'll say this, the fact that you're citing climate change as Biden's best performance metric only supports my point.
It was not his best by any means and yet it's called the best because they need to push the narrative about how important it is.
Polls is just how they manufacture consent.

What have we been talking about for the last hour? go to sleep, you're sleep deprived.

[Will Hunting]

will it cost him votes? yes or no?

Nope. Not at all.

[Trainwreck2100]

Nope. Not at all.

i disagree

[Will Hunting]

i disagree

Yet you can't provide any specifics with respect to the voters he actually loses

[Trainwreck2100]

Yet you can't provide any specifics with respect to the voters he actually loses

you can't provide proof he won't

[Reck]

will it cost him votes? yes or no?

In the thousands? No.

Not in any significant way that will tilt an election. But I guess we'll see polls from here until election day and ultimately on election night.

This is not a seismic shift.

[Will Hunting]

you can't provide proof he won't

I also can't provide proof that unicorns don't exist. pretending it's my burden to prove the negative

[Spurtacular]

Chris

Okay, I must've been had Chumpettes blabbing too much in my ear and missed some of the stuff.
Trump actually did a pretty good job of slapping Biden on the Russia/Ukraine/China family business stuff.
He just didn't twist the knife on the Hunter stuff so much. Mercy kill I guess.

[gambit1990]

biden is polling as good as you could want in texas for a democrat.

[Trainwreck2100]

I also can't provide proof that unicorns don't exist. pretending it's my burden to prove the negative

You say it won't cost him votes that's not the negative. It's the negative of my claim, but it's still your claim. Sure I introduced the argument but you have as much proof that it won't cost him votes as I do that it will. your argument is literally "you said this prove it", you i ain't got to prove , you're so confident i'm wrong back up your claim i'm wrong. Oh wait you won't because you can't but that's okay because " I don't have too "

[Will Hunting]

You say it won't cost him votes that's not the negative. It's the negative of my claim, but it's still your claim. Sure I introduced the argument but you have as much proof that it won't cost him votes as I do that it will. your argument is literally "you said this prove it", you i ain't got to prove , you're so confident i'm wrong back up your claim i'm wrong. Oh wait you won't because you can't but that's okay because " I don't have too "

I didn't ask you to prove anything. I asked you to just name a specific group of voters you think Biden loses and after dodging the question 3 times you reply with idiots. We didn't even get to the proof part, you never made a claim specific to certain voters

Regardless, "X event won't happen" is the negative, and "X event will happen" is the positive. I'm not sure how you could try to argue otherwise.

[Spurtacular]

In the thousands? No.

Not in any significant way that will tilt an election. But I guess we'll see polls from here until election day and ultimately on election night.

This is not a seismic shift.

Somehow, Biden never loses a significant number of voters on his stupid sh**.

Funny how that works.

[gambit1990]

i really have no idea if trumpism has grown or lessened... or if it's pretty much the same size.

[FrostKing]

If we're being honest people in Pennsylvania obsessed with keeping their fracking jobs are uneducated and lazy welfare queens. They're scared of their cheese getting moved so they want taxpayer oil subsidies that are required for their jobs to survive to remain in place.

One cannot be selfish bout their job and yet welfare lover.

[Will Hunting]

Somehow, Biden never loses a significant number of voters on his stupid sh**.

Funny how that works.

Not sure who's saying that.

He's absolutely losing some black voters because of the crime bill. A lot of them are going to be non-votes vs. votes for Trump, but he's absolutely losing voters over it, particularly young black men.

He's also losing voters for being pro Iraq war.

I could go on.

[Will Hunting]

One cannot be selfish bout their job and yet welfare lover.

When your job requires government welfare in order to exist, sure they can. What a re ed fortune cookie-like statement.

[Trainwreck2100]

I didn't ask you to prove anything. I asked you to just name a specific group of voters you think Biden loses and after dodging the question 3 times you reply with idiots. We didn't even get to the proof part, you never made a claim specific to certain voters

Regardless, "X event won't happen" is the negative, and "X event will happen" is the positive. I'm not sure how you could try to argue otherwise.

Is it incorrect to say that people who vote for Trump are idiots? If you agree with that statement, then any vote Biden loses will be to an idiot.
You said you can't prove a negative, negatives can be proven just as easy as positives.

[gambit1990]

[Nathan89]

[Will Hunting]

Is it incorrect to say that people who vote for Trump are idiots? If you agree with that statement, then any vote Biden loses will be to an idiot.
You said you can't prove a negative, negatives can be proven just as easy as positives.

You're just speaking in philosophical gibberish now.

Sure, any voter Biden loses to Trump is an idiot. What does that have to do with whether or not he actually loses voters for saying he's going to phase oil out?

Another post where you can't explain what voters Biden loses for saying he wants to phase oil out.

[Trainwreck2100]

you should watch the focus group, you'll feel real good about yourself after

[Trainwreck2100]

You're just speaking in philosophical gibberish now.

Sure, any voter Biden loses to Trump is an idiot. What does that have to do with whether or not he actually loses voters for saying he's going to phase oil out?

Another post where you can't explain what voters Biden loses for saying he wants to phase oil out.

I already told you I'm not telling you what voters he's losing, if you can give me proof he won't lose voters I'll walk it back.

I believe he will lose voters by that statement, Biden's campaign seemed to have that same sentiment especially because they walked it back.

[Will Hunting]

I already told you I'm not telling you what voters he's losing, if you can give me proof he won't lose voters I'll walk it back.

I believe he will lose voters by that statement, Biden's campaign seemed to have that same sentiment especially because they walked it back.

my proof is that you can't tell me what voters he's losing.

Do you believe in god? You're confusion about burden of proof makes me think you're a bible thumper who believes in a magical man in the sky.

[Trainwreck2100]

my proof is that you can't tell me what voters he's losing.

Do you believe in god? You're confusion about burden of proof makes me think you're a bible thumper who believes in a magical man in the sky.

You disagree with me I welcome your disagreement, kindly provide proof that he's not losing voters.

You bring up bible thumper, fine then, when bible thumpers say God made everything, atheists don't say prove it, they say "bing bang morons"

In this case I'll be the bible thumper kindly give me your version of the big bang.