MVP race

[DAF86]

There you have your strawmen.

[DAF86]

1A- Pat Mahomes - 4208 yds (323.7 ypg) - 33 TDs - 5 INTS - 68.4 compt% - 250 rushing yds (19.2 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 3 fumbles - 112.3 QBR - 84.7 TQBR
1a- Aaron Rodgers - 3685 yds (283.5 ypg) - 39 TDs - 4 INTs - 69.6 compt% - 100 rushing yds (7.7 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 3 fumbles - 119.7 QBR - 84.8 TQBR
3- Josh Allen - 3641 yds (280.1 ypg) - 28 TDs - 9 INTs - 68.6 compt % - 350 rushing yds (26.9 ypg) - 6 rushing TDs - 8 fumbles - 12 receiving yards - 1 receiving TD - 103.3 QBR - 75.9 TQBR
4- Russell Wilson - 3685 yds (283.5 ypg) - 36 TDs - 12 INTs - 70.4 compt % - 423 rushing yds (32.5 ypg) - 1 rushing TDs - 7 fumbles - 109 QBR - 71.4 TQBR
5- Derrick Henry - 1532 rushing yds (117.8 ypg) - 5.2 ypc - 14 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 109 receiving yds (8.4 ypg) - 6.4 ypr - 0 receiving TDs

[DAF86]

1- Pat Mahomes - 4462 yds (318.7 ypg) - 36 TDs - 5 INTS - 67.3 compt% - 287 rushing yds (20.5 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 5 fumbles - 110.6 QBR - 83.4 TQBR
2- Aaron Rodgers - 3828 yds (273.4 ypg) - 40 TDs - 4 INTs - 69.6 compt% - 126 rushing yds (9 ypg) - 3 rushing TDs - 3 fumbles - 118 QBR - 83.5 TQBR
3- Josh Allen - 4000 yds (285.7 ypg) - 30 TDs - 9 INTs - 68.7 compt % - 383 rushing yds (27.4 ypg) - 8 rushing TDs - 9 fumbles - 12 receiving yards - 1 receiving TD - 104.2 QBR - 79.5 TQBR
4- Russell Wilson - 3806 yds (271.9 ypg) - 37 TDs - 13 INTs - 70.2 compt % - 475 rushing yds (33.9 ypg) - 1 rushing TDs - 7 fumbles - 107.1 QBR - 73.6 TQBR
5- Derrick Henry - 1679 rushing yds (119.9 ypg) - 5.2 ypc - 15 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 114 receiving yds (8.1 ypg) - 6 ypr - 0 receiving TDs

[Millennial_Messiah]

1- Pat Mahomes - 4462 yds (318.7 ypg) - 36 TDs - 5 INTS - 67.3 compt% - 287 rushing yds (20.5 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 5 fumbles - 110.6 QBR - 83.4 TQBR
2- Aaron Rodgers - 3828 yds (273.4 ypg) - 40 TDs - 4 INTs - 69.6 compt% - 126 rushing yds (9 ypg) - 3 rushing TDs - 3 fumbles - 118 QBR - 83.5 TQBR
3- Josh Allen - 4000 yds (285.7 ypg) - 30 TDs - 9 INTs - 68.7 compt % - 383 rushing yds (27.4 ypg) - 8 rushing TDs - 9 fumbles - 12 receiving yards - 1 receiving TD - 104.2 QBR - 79.5 TQBR
4- Russell Wilson - 3806 yds (271.9 ypg) - 37 TDs - 13 INTs - 70.2 compt % - 475 rushing yds (33.9 ypg) - 1 rushing TDs - 7 fumbles - 107.1 QBR - 73.6 TQBR
5- Derrick Henry - 1679 rushing yds (119.9 ypg) - 5.2 ypc - 15 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 114 receiving yds (8.1 ypg) - 6 ypr - 0 receiving TDs

agreed, Rodgers' stats are slightly, slightly better across the board but Mahomes is 13-1 in the better of the two conferences. Tough compe ion and the Chiefs have won every "hard" game largely thanks to Mahomes. Rodgers' compe ion has been very, very easy across the board; his only "hard" victory was against a Michael Thomas-less Saints and very early in the season.

[DAF86]

agreed, Rodgers' stats are slightly, slightly better across the board but Mahomes is 13-1 in the better of the two conferences. Tough compe ion and the Chiefs have won every "hard" game largely thanks to Mahomes. Rodgers' compe ion has been very, very easy across the board; his only "hard" victory was against a Michael Thomas-less Saints and very early in the season.

One thing Mahomes has going against him is that he won't play the last week, so he won't be able to get those 5k yards, 40 TDs Magic numbers, and that might prevent some simple minded people from voting for him.

[Millennial_Messiah]

One thing Mahomes has going against him is that he won't play the last week, so he won't be able to get those 5k yards, 40 TDs Magic numbers, and that might prevent some simple minded people from voting for him.

and if they say lose to Atlanta which will keep him on the field in week 17, even if it's in a shootout where Mahomes has like 4TD-0INT-350+ yards, then he'll have two losses which is only one less than rodgers.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Atlanta, for all their derpiness and chokiness, is one of those funky teams that can beat anyone on any given Sunday simply because of their sheer raw offensive talent. They can also get destroyed, or of course get out to a big lead and cough it up. But I wouldn't be at all surprised if they beat KC in KC. This is the time of year KC tends to blow one, especially with that comfortable-ish #1 overall seed lead.

[i'm_still_beta]

I wanted Mahomes to win it, but it looks like Rodgers has it in the bag

[Millennial_Messiah]

I wanted Mahomes to win it, but it looks like Rodgers has it in the bag

nah

Fraudgers threw a pick yesterday as well, even though it was basically garbage time

If the Pukers get beat in Chicago and lose that #1 NFC seed and the Chiefs finish 15-1 and the Packers at 12-4 and no bye, regardless of final regular season individual stats you have to go Mahomes over Fraudgers tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

thank you fat china boy for missing that kick tbh.

[i'm_still_beta]

thank you fat china boy for missing that kick tbh.

When announcers start telling during the game right before the kick about how accurate kicker is that kicker often misses. When ESPN published articles last week about how this guy is cultural phenomenon in South Korea and all-pro kicker, he had no chance

[Millennial_Messiah]

When announcers start telling during the game right before the kick about how accurate kicker is that kicker often misses. When ESPN published articles last week about how this guy is cultural phenomenon in South Korea and all-pro kicker, he had no chance

South Korea is still china tbh, and the china boy choked. No excuse.

your point is similar to "Steph Curry hasn't missed a free throw in 13 games and he's a 92% free throw shooter" and then he randomly misses a technical free throw for a defensive three seconds. But neither are really valid.

[DAF86]

thank you fat china boy for missing that kick tbh.

That actually hurt Mahomes chances. Koo hits that and, either Mahomes gets 40 yards in 10 seconds, or Game goes to overtime and Mahomes gets 70 more yards and one more TD.

[MultiTroll]

That actually hurt Mahomes chances. Koo hits that and, either Mahomes gets 40 yards in 10 seconds, or Game goes to overtime and Mahomes gets 70 more yards and one more TD.

Ah but it preserved my parlay.

Chiefs are taking on an *aura* of previous teams that had phenomenal luck with other teams choking. Skunkies in MLB, Pattycakes (in addition to cheating and refs), Lakers (even with the all time rig an earlier game all the Kings had to do was rebound the damn ball. Instead the Robert Horry fluke (not the shot he's Ice Robert) but getting the shot attempt.

Now it's like opponents with a chance to beat the Chiefs invariably have some uber brain fart.
Still the best team and it's not close.
Philbillie Rivers blows a chance to send Rothy and the Steelers farther back.

[Millennial_Messiah]

That actually hurt Mahomes chances. Koo hits that and, either Mahomes gets 40 yards in 10 seconds, or Game goes to overtime and Mahomes gets 70 more yards and one more TD.

Or perhaps the Falcons win the coin toss and Mahomes never sees the ball, ya know like the 18-19 AFCCG ..demoralizing.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Ah but it preserved my parlay.

Chiefs are taking on an *aura* of previous teams that had phenomenal luck with other teams choking. Skunkies in MLB, Pattycakes (in addition to cheating and refs), Lakers (even with the all time rig an earlier game all the Kings had to do was rebound the damn ball. Instead the Robert Horry fluke (not the shot he's Ice Robert) but getting the shot attempt.

Now it's like opponents with a chance to beat the Chiefs invariably have some uber brain fart.
Still the best team and it's not close.
Philbillie Rivers blows a chance to send Rothy and the Steelers farther back.

the thing that pissed me off is Sacramento had a 26 point lead and the Losers were dead in the water until that big fat guy (Samaki Walker) made a 3 from near halfcourt at the end of the first half that shouldn't have counted because it was way after the buzzer. But instant replay on those didn't come until that summer following the Losers' cheat-y three peat in '02.

Those 3 points, that should not have counted, were the difference in the game and the series... otherwise Horry's shot is virtually meaningless, the Kings make some free throws and go up 3-1, L.A. is dead, Shaq probably demands a trade then and there and Kirby perhaps retires with a sorry 2 championship legacy.

If only.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Or perhaps the Falcons win the coin toss and Mahomes never sees the ball, ya know like the 18-19 AFCCG ..demoralizing.

Perhaps not. Have you not seen Atlanta’s uncanny choking ability this year?

[DAF86]

Or perhaps the Falcons win the coin toss and Mahomes never sees the ball, ya know like the 18-19 AFCCG ..demoralizing.

It's the Falcons vs the Chiefs. We all knew the Chiefs where winning that game no matter what.

[DAF86]

Perhaps not. Have you not seen Atlanta’s uncanny choking ability this year?

This year only?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Perhaps not. Have you not seen Atlanta’s uncanny choking ability this year?

[Millennial_Messiah]

This year only?

Stole my post. Marry me? <3

[DAF86]

Stole my post. Marry me? <3

Keldon Johnson, is that You?

[Benoit]

I don't respect Mahomes simply because Alex Smith looked good in that system, and Mahomes wasn't anything coming out of college.

Rodgers is better.

[spurraider21]

[DAF86]

1- Aaron Rodgers - 4059 yds (270.6 ypg) - 44 TDs - 5 INTs - 70.3 compt% - 145 rushing yds (9.7 ypg) - 3 rushing TDs - 4 fumbles - 119.4 QBR - 83.9 TQBR
2- Pat Mahomes - 4740 yds (316 ypg) - 38 TDs - 6 INTS - 66.3 compt% - 287 rushing yds (20.5 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 5 fumbles - 108.2 QBR - 82.7 TQBR
3- Josh Allen - 4320 yds (288 ypg) - 34 TDs - 9 INTs - 69.1 compt % - 418 rushing yds (27.9 ypg) - 8 rushing TDs - 9 fumbles - 12 receiving yards - 1 receiving TD - 106.4 QBR - 81.6 TQBR
4- Russell Wilson - 4031 yds (268.7 ypg) - 38 TDs - 13 INTs - 69.7 compt % - 484 rushing yds (32.3 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 7 fumbles - 106.3 QBR - 73.1 TQBR
5- Derrick Henry - 1777 rushing yds (118.5 ypg) - 5.2 ypc - 15 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 114 receiving yds (7.6 ypg) - 6 ypr - 0 receiving TDs