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    ^ Jalen Ramsey told me he was bad
    (also, media)
    also, Buffalo hasn't beaten the Patriots or Belichick yet, nor Mahomes and/or the Chiefs, so I'm still holding back on the 3-1 Bills.
    3-1

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    ^ Jalen Ramsey told me he was bad
    (also, media)
    also, Buffalo hasn't beaten the Patriots or Belichick yet, nor Mahomes and/or the Chiefs, so I'm still holding back on the 3-1 Bills.
    You ing welcher

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    ^ Jalen Ramsey told me he was bad
    (also, media)
    also, Buffalo hasn't beaten the Patriots or Belichick yet, nor Mahomes and/or the Chiefs, so I'm still holding back on the 3-1 Bills.
    If they beat everybody except those two teams, will you say they suck with a record of 13-3?

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    If they beat everybody except those two teams, will you say they suck with a record of 13-3?
    To be the best you have to beat the best. At least split the "hard" games. Winning only the "easy" games makes you a pretender. Sort of like Green Bay and Baltimore last year (and this year so far). You can't be considered among the league's elite until you beat elite teams.

    To me, KC and Seattle are the 2 best teams in football and it isn't that close.

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    4th down, Josh Allen throws a prayer, incomplete in the end zone. Minimal contact, ball overthrown by 10 yards... ball game, Rams win.

    I'm stickin' to it like duct tape.

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    To be the best you have to beat the best. At least split the "hard" games. Winning only the "easy" games makes you a pretender. Sort of like Green Bay and Baltimore last year (and this year so far). You can't be considered among the league's elite until you beat elite teams.

    To me, KC and Seattle are the 2 best teams in football and it isn't that close.
    But you didn't say they were pretenders, you said they were that wouldn't even make the playoffs, tbh.

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    But you didn't say they were pretenders, you said they were that wouldn't even make the playoffs, tbh.
    if they're 12-4 with losses to NE, SEA, KC and NE again, they're basically green bay last year redux, and they're going to get killed in the playoffs.

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    if they're 12-4 with losses to NE, SEA, KC and NE again, they're basically green bay last year redux, and they're going to get killed in the playoffs.
    If they are last season's Green Bay, they are a conference finals team. They are a top 4 team in the league. That's a far cry from the non-playoffs team you predicted, tbh.

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    1- Russell Wilson - 1502 yds (300.4 ypg) - 19 TDs - 3 INTs - 72.8 compt % - 153 rushing yds (30.6 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 129.8 QBR - 84.8 TQBR
    2- Aaron Rodgers - 1214 yds (303.5 ypg) - 13 TDs - 0 INT - 70.5 compt% - 31 rushing yds (7.8 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 0 fumbles - 128.4 QBR - 93.2 TQBR
    3- Josh Allen - 1589 yds (317.8 ypg) - 14 TDs - 3 INTs - 69.3 compt % - 101 rushing yds (20.2 ypg) - 3 rushing TDs - 3 fumbles - 113.0 QBR - 86.8 TQBR
    4- Pat Mahomes - 1474 yds (294.8 ypg) - 13 TDs - 1 INT - 63.7 compt% - 129 rushing yds (25.8 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 0 fumbles - 107.3 QBR - 87.4 TQBR
    5- Ryan Tannehill - 1004 yds (251 ypg) - 9 TDs - 1 INT - 68.9 compt% - 77 rushing yds (19.3 ypg) - 1 rushing TD - 2 fumbles - 110.8 QBR - 84.1 TQBR
    6- Ben Roethlisberger - 1016 yds (254 ypg) - 10 TDs - 1 INT - 69.9 compt% - 2 rushing yds (0.5 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 2 fumbles - 110.4 QBR - 65.6 TQBR

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    Currently I have:

    1. Aaron Rodgers
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    Why would anybody have anyone other than Wilson as the unquestionable MVP right now?

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    Why would anybody have anyone other than Wilson as the unquestionable MVP right now?
    because rodgers has been playing out of his mind as well

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    Why would anybody have anyone other than Wilson as the unquestionable MVP right now?
    Rodgers has been great so far. He's at least not so distand 2nd

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    because rodgers has been playing out of his mind as well
    Not as out of his mind as Wilson, tbh. "Not even close" as some would say. Also Rodgers has a much more stacked team. A better defense than Wilson and a top 5 running game. Rodgers won game 2 as a game manager. Wilson didn't have the luxury of doing that so far this season. He has had to play balls to the wall every game to stay undefeated.

    I'm not saying Rodgers isn't balling, hence why he's number 2nd in my list, but there's just no argument for him to be above Wilson. Much less imply that Rodgers is head and shoulders above the compe ion like Pelicans78 did by placing him 1st, 2nd and 3rd, tbh.

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    Not as out of his mind as Wilson, tbh. "Not even close" as some would say. Also Rodgers has a much more stacked team. A better defense than Wilson and a top 5 running game. Rodgers won game 2 as a game manager. Wilson didn't have the luxury of doing that so far this season. He has had to play balls to the wall every game to stay undefeated.

    I'm not saying Rodgers isn't balling, hence why he's number 2nd in my list, but there's just no argument for him to be above Wilson. Much less imply that Rodgers is head and shoulders above the compe ion like Pelicans78 did by placing him 1st, 2nd and 3rd, tbh.
    i dont think their offensive situations are that different. rodgers still put up all the numbers with adams and lazard both out (albeit against the falcons). he also torched the saints when adams was out and their run game wasnt working.

    but comparing the weapons, is Metcalf/Lockett/Carson really worse, or significantly worse than Adams/Lazard/Jones? packers do have the better OL. one of rodgers wins coming easier is a pretty lame argument when he's been lights out every other game. thats usually an argument reserved for a QB who is regularly carried, like Jimmy G, not a guy who dominates but has an easier game here and there

    i dont think its outrageous at all to have him #1. completely disagree with you that its "not even close"

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    i dont think their offensive situations are that different. rodgers still put up all the numbers with adams and lazard both out (albeit against the falcons). he also torched the saints when adams was out and their run game wasnt working.

    but comparing the weapons, is Metcalf/Lockett/Carson really worse, or significantly worse than Adams/Lazard/Jones? packers do have the better OL. one of rodgers wins coming easier is a pretty lame argument when he's been lights out every other game. thats usually an argument reserved for a QB who is regularly carried, like Jimmy G, not a guy who dominates but has an easier game here and there

    i dont think its outrageous at all to have him #1. completely disagree with you that its "not even close"
    It wasn't just that it was an easy Game. It was that he didn't play particularly well either and yet the Packers dominated, proving the Packers don't need Rodgers to ball everygame to win. I think he barely completed over half his passes. If Wilson has a game like that, Seattle probably loses, that's what makes him more valuable so far this season, imho.

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    It wasn't just that it was an easy Game. It was that he didn't play particularly well either and yet the Packers dominated, proving the Packers don't need Rodgers to ball everygame to win. I think he barely completed over half his passes. If Wilson has a game like that, Seattle probably loses, that's what makes him more valuable so far this season, imho.
    yeah. so he had an easy game. thats what an easy game is, when you dont play your best and still win.

    he completed 60% of his passes for 240 yards and 2 TDs and they barely threw the ball in the 2nd half so the numbers are also deflated.

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    Does Dak get on the top 5 after last nights game tbh?

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    1- Russell Wilson - 1502 yds (300.4 ypg) - 19 TDs - 3 INTs - 72.8 compt % - 153 rushing yds (30.6 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 129.8 QBR - 84.8 TQBR
    2- Pat Mahomes - 1699 yds (283.2 ypg) - 15 TDs - 1 INT - 65.8 compt% - 165 rushing yds (27.5 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 110.1 QBR - 86.9 TQBR
    3- Ryan Tannehill - 1368 yds (273.6 ypg) - 13 TDs - 2 INTs - 69.9 compt% - 77 rushing yds (15.4 ypg) - 1 rushing TD - 3 fumbles - 113.5 QBR - 85.5 TQBR
    4- Aaron Rodgers - 1374 yds (274.8 ypg) - 13 TDs - 2 INTs - 65.5 compt% - 45 rushing yds (9 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 0 fumbles - 109.7 QBR - 85.2 TQBR

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    1- Russell Wilson - 1502 yds (300.4 ypg) - 19 TDs - 3 INTs - 72.8 compt % - 153 rushing yds (30.6 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 129.8 QBR - 84.8 TQBR
    2- Pat Mahomes - 1699 yds (283.2 ypg) - 15 TDs - 1 INT - 65.8 compt% - 165 rushing yds (27.5 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 110.1 QBR - 86.9 TQBR
    3- Ryan Tannehill - 1368 yds (273.6 ypg) - 13 TDs - 2 INTs - 69.9 compt% - 77 rushing yds (15.4 ypg) - 1 rushing TD - 3 fumbles - 113.5 QBR - 85.5 TQBR
    4- Aaron Rodgers - 1374 yds (274.8 ypg) - 13 TDs - 2 INTs - 65.5 compt% - 45 rushing yds (9 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 0 fumbles - 109.7 QBR - 85.2 TQBR
    5. Gardner Minshew
    6. Kyler Murray

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    5. Gardner Minshew
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    No. The Jags suck ass. What is their record? 1-5 with their only win coming in Week 1? lmao. Murray over that guy easily. Brady is probably #5. Carr is top 10. Good to see Josh Tebow falling to earth, tbh.

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    7. Chad Henne

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    1- Russell Wilson - 1890 yds (315 ypg) - 22 TDs - 6 INTs - 71.2 compt % - 237 rushing yds (39.5 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 119.5 QBR - 81.9 TQBR
    2- Aaron Rodgers - 1657 yds (276.2 ypg) - 17 TDs - 2 INTs - 65.9 compt% - 45 rushing yds (7.5 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 0 fumbles - 113.4 QBR - 85.9 TQBR
    3- Pat Mahomes - 1899 yds (271.3 ypg) - 16 TDs - 1 INT - 65.7 compt% - 165 rushing yds (23.6 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 109.8 QBR - 85.3 TQBR
    4- Tom Brady - 1910 yds (272.9) - 18 TDs - 4 INTs - 65.7 compt% - 7 rushing yds (1 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 4 fumbles - 102.7 QBR - 70.7 TQBR
    5- Ben Roethlisberger - 1446 yds (241 ypg) - 13 TDs - 4 INTs - 68.2 compt% - 6 rushing yds (1 ypg) - 1 rushing TD - 2 fumbles - 99.6 QBR - 62.2 TQBR

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    1- Russell Wilson - 2151 yds (307.3 ypg) - 26 TDs - 6 INTs - 71.5 compt % - 260 rushing yds (37.1 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 120.8 QBR - 83.4 TQBR
    2- Pat Mahomes - 2315 yds (289.4 ypg) - 21 TDs - 1 INT - 66.9 compt% - 165 rushing yds (20.6 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 115 QBR - 86.8 TQBR
    3- Aaron Rodgers - 1948 yds (278.3 ypg) - 20 TDs - 2 INTs - 65.9 compt% - 54 rushing yds (7.7 ypg) - 0 rushing TDs - 1 fumble - 113 QBR - 84.2 TQBR
    4- Tom Brady - 2189 yds (273.6) - 20 TDs - 4 INTs - 66.2 compt% - 6 rushing yds (0.8 ypg) - 2 rushing TDs - 4 fumbles - 103.1 QBR - 72.8 TQBR
    5- Ben Roethlisberger - 1628 yds (232.6 ypg) - 15 TDs - 4 INTs - 68.2 compt% - 6 rushing yds (0.9 ypg) - 0 rushing TD - 3 fumbles - 99.8 QBR - 63.4 TQBR

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    If Lamar is basically doing the same thing as last year according to you, why isn't he on your list

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