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    I think you're hugely underestimating how much the GOP is the party of Trump. Do you know any Republicans who actually don't vote because they don't like Trump? Every Republican voter I know loves him.
    Exactly. There isn't some anti-Trump faction within the GOP. It's his party now.

    Heck, a lot of the in bent GOP senators are polling behind Trump in their states (Ernst, Cunningham, McSally, McConnell and Graham to name a few). Liberals and moderates find Trump sycophants just as repulsive as they find Trump himself, the only difference is Trump s aren't as supportive of Trump sycophants as they are of Trump.

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    Most of the lifetime Republicans I know are either voting for Biden or they're probably not voting.
    Weird. All the lifetime Republicans I know are enthusiastically voting for Trump and have loved him ever since he got the nomination.

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    One point of reference for me is Highland Park, a wealthy community in the middle of Dallas. Historically a huge Republican stronghold. You drive through there today and the Biden signs outnumber Trump signs 10-1. There's even a house with a huge sign that says "Stop stealing our Trump signs." I know signs don't vote but it's still striking.

    You put a more "palatable" Republican in that spot and I think a lot of those votes go back to Republicans. Having a candidate like Biden certainly helps minimize that effect.

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    One point of reference for me is Highland Park, a wealthy community in the middle of Dallas. Historically a huge Republican stronghold. You drive through there today and the Biden signs outnumber Trump signs 10-1. There's even a house with a huge sign that says "Stop stealing our Trump signs." I know signs don't vote but it's still striking.

    You put a more "palatable" Republican in that spot and I think a lot of those votes go back to Republicans. Having a candidate like Biden certainly helps minimize that effect.
    Don't think you can take much away from yard signs. I remember in 2016 there were Hillary signs all over Alamo Heights.

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    One point of reference for me is Highland Park, a wealthy community in the middle of Dallas. Historically a huge Republican stronghold. You drive through there today and the Biden signs outnumber Trump signs 10-1. There's even a house with a huge sign that says "Stop stealing our Trump signs." I know signs don't vote but it's still striking.

    You put a more "palatable" Republican in that spot and I think a lot of those votes go back to Republicans. Having a candidate like Biden certainly helps minimize that effect.
    I have similar anecdotal evidence, although I know a few lifelong conservatives that are still pro Trump.

    Mostly because they are hardcore anti-liberal tho

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    Weird. All the lifetime Republicans I know are enthusiastically voting for Trump and have loved him ever since he got the nomination.
    You can't be an enthusiastic Trump voter unless you're a sociopath or a moron, so I generally avoid those types of people anyway. I'm fortunate that I'm not forced to work with them.

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    Don't think you can take much away from yard signs. I remember in 2016 there were Hillary signs all over Alamo Heights.
    I don't think it's a sign of how the overall vote is going to go, but my point is that chances are a lot of those signs are in the yards of people who voted for Bush/Romney. Those are the people I'm talking about.

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    You can't be an enthusiastic Trump voter unless you're a sociopath or a moron, so I generally avoid those types of people anyway. I'm fortunate that I'm not forced to work with them.
    Disagree, the right wing mass media is phenomenal at normalizing ridiculous and also making Trump into the victim while playing up the socialist boogeyman.

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    i'm aware trump voters LOVE trump but i wonder if there's some amount of trump supporters who will secretly vote for biden.

    it sounds totally backwards but that's trump supporters for you.

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    Most Republican friends I have say "I'm a Republican but I don't like Trump!" but they never actually say they're voting against Trump. I don't really talk to people who don't have a 4 year degree so that's likely why I don't know any staunch Trump supporters.

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    Disagree, the right wing mass media is phenomenal at normalizing ridiculous and also making Trump into the victim while playing up the socialist boogeyman.


    Exactly why Pence would have a shot

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    Grifting made easy. No need to work you.

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    Disagree, the right wing media is phenomenal at normalizing ridiculous and also making Trump into the victim while playing up the socialist boogeyman.
    Anyone who falls for that is a moron. I was a 21 year old "conservative" when I realized Fox News was insulting my intelligence. Any grown adult who can be manipulated that easily and transparently over a long period of time has a brain made of mush.

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    What happens if he doesn't defeat COVID and dies? Are they gonna send all the coins to the kids in Africa who are wearing 2007 Patriots 19-0 shirts / 2013 Spurs NBA Championship shirts?

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    Most Republican friends I have say "I'm a Republican but I don't like Trump!" but they never actually say they're voting against Trump. I don't really talk to people who don't have a 4 year degree so that's likely why I don't know any staunch Trump supporters.
    Most of the Trump supporters I know have 4 year (or more) degrees and good jobs too. I'm not sampling trailer trash when I talk about the Republicans I know loving Trump.

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    Anyone who falls for that is a moron. I was a 21 year old "conservative" when I realized Fox News was insulting my intelligence. Any grown adult who can be manipulated that easily and transparently over a long period of time has a brain made of mush.
    Intelligent and good people in this nation largely believe a man who is also his own father was born from a virgin and survived death after being left to rot three days. The people can be made to believe is nuts.

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    They are killing d poor fat bas

    A total of 2104 patients were assigned to receive dexamethasone and 4321 to receive usual care. Overall, 482 patients (22.9%) in the dexamethasone group and 1110 patients (25.7%) in the usual care group died within 28 days after randomization

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2021436


    WTF 40% of patients who took this and were not on oxygen died

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    FBI should arrest that team of "doctors" ASAP

    Treason!!!

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    Claudia Conway just announced she has COVID.

    Kellyanne Conway stepped away from the campaign so she could go "be a mother," but couldn't resist making an appearance at the "Dance on RBG's Grave" superspreader ceremony, where she picked up COVID and gave it to her family.

    Paraphrased, Kellyanne is a horrible parent and a huge .

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    Most of the Trump supporters I know have 4 year (or more) degrees and good jobs too. I'm not sampling trailer trash when I talk about the Republicans I know loving Trump.
    You believe in Shintoism. Lol

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    You believe in Shintoism. Lol
    LOL where do you get that from?

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    LOL where do you get that from?
    Your absolute love for Japan.

    Im just busting balls. Rofl

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    "The doctors said that Trump had a “high fever” Friday,

    and that there had been two incidents when his oxygen levels dropped — one Friday and one Saturday.

    They said that Trump received oxygen at the White House on Friday;

    they were not clear about whether it was administered again Saturday."

    -- Boston Globe email

    drop in oxygen means covid is into his lungs aggressively.

    They give him steroids to reduce the inflammation



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