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  1. #1
    smackdaddy11
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    I found this post at the ESPN message boards.

    boards.go.com/cgi/nba/req...irstThread

    I have no idea if this quote is true, however it should be checked on by someone who can find out. I tried searching French media sources to see where it was but no luck.

    Here is the free english translation.

    «I would remember of all that when j?arriverai in contract end», the Tony words Parker in L?Equipe shows well that the leader tricolore n?a not at all appreciated l?at ude his club and of his trainer that wished to enlist Jason Kidd, the next season. «When one won, I thought sufficiently to have proved for that the club me done confidence», declares TP. It asserts n?avoir nothing against the leader of the Net ones but castigates the tactics of its leaders: «One lost Robinson, it is necessary for us a big one, not a new leader». The contract prolongation of Kidd to the Net ones assures the Tricolore dune places of tenured one with the Spurs but l?ambiance particularly should be stretched to the return.

    I get that Tony will "remeber this" when he is a free agent.

    If anyone can find a better translation, the better. I'm not trying to cause any uproar but I think it should be checked out.


    IF this is true, hey Tony :moon

    What will the anti Kidd contingent say about this if true?

  2. #2
    Bounce580
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    I can't see him holding a grudge for two years....especially around Pop. He'd be murdered before he has a chance to test FA.

  3. #3
    Walton Buys Off Me
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    If this is true- with an emphasis on the if part, then Mr. Parker needs to know his place. He also needs to review videotape of his 'less-than-stellar' performances in games 4, 5 and 6 of the Finals. If it weren't for Speedy Claxton, then....the rest as they say may be history.

    Settle down Tony, just because everyone in France is telling you that you're the greatest thing since a baguette, you went AWOL for three straight games in the NBA Finals- which just might have something to do with our interest in Kidd.

    Shut up and play- and be thankful you're not a Net right now.

  4. #4
    Whottt
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  5. #5
    Whottt
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    I'd say well done Pro Kidds...you guys are gonna get what you want in just about 2 years.

    You guys didn's want Tony and now you are gonna get to not have him.

    Nicely done..

    I don't blame Tony. Spurs didn't have faith in him, they preferred Kidd over him...Kidd left them hanging with their s in their hands...And Pop thought everyone was going to be as forgiving about an attempted butt ing as DROB was.

    Good Job Pro Kidd's, most of you guys wanted Tony out of here at any cost and now you will get it.

    I mean we all know Tony sucks and you can put around Duncan and he will an NBA le..I'd say you guys should be happy Parker won't be holding the team back anylonger.


    Where are all the guys that claimed that people saying Parker wouldn't like Kidd here didn't know what they were talking about? I can't seem to find any of those guys anymore.

    Oh and don't count on Tony forgetting about it like David did...He's french you know..

    Face it...this entire failure of an offeseason can be laid at the feet of everyone who stupidly wanted Jason Kidd and got burnt by him. No one else. Kidd lover are responsible for this. And yes that includes the ones employed by the Spurs.

  6. #6
    T Park Num 9
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    Quoteing Jay Howard when they traded Sean Elliott for Dennis Rodman. "There is no silver lining in this cloud, this is a terribly one sided deal that has cost the Spurs some fans, and some players trust"

    A guy goes out in the playoffs, busts his ass, plays awesome against the Lakers, and gets repayed by having the team go after the guy he just beat in the Finals.

    I would take that as disrespect too as well.

    Suprise suprise guys, but my level of respect for Popovich dropped a level.

  7. #7
    SequSpur
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    J. Kidd was the best player available. The Spurs had cash, so you go after him. Parker failed to show up in Game 5 and Game 6. Maybe that had a factor. Kidd was in his head big time.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Parker backs up Claxton.

  8. #8
    Whottt
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    Preach it TPark!

    I love how all these guys that wanted Parker gone are now trying to put this on Tony...

    Tony just got a lesson in "it's just business 101" by the Spurs..
    and he is merely showing he learned that lesson.

    Loyalty is a funny thing..you generally have to give it to recieve it..and teams for whom players have to give up millions in endorsements to play for need to give a little bit more loyalty than most.

    DROB spoiled the Spurs..and they are in for a rude awakening..on the court and off of it.

    Edit: I have a feeling Tony is probably going to be a bit of a cancer from this point on, where the Spurs are concerned. It will probably be in our best interest to move him before his contract is up. Shouldn't be that difficult to move a guy that will probably be a top 5 PG within the next 2 years.

  9. #9
    smackdaddy11
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    I'm not trying to put anything on anyone.

    I'm going to see IF this is true. If it is, I'll chime in.

  10. #10
    T Park Num 9
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    Whott your 100% correct on DRob spoiling the Spurs with his loyalty.

    Parker and his agent more than likely will remember this,
    and in two years when he is a FA, is when be averaging 20 points and 8 assits a game.


    Cuss Parker all you want, he is just showing HUMAN feelings for disrespect.

    Busts his ass in the playoffs to get what in return??

    A guy trying to replace him whos ass he kicked in the Finals?!?!?!?!?!?

  11. #11
    picnroll
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    Like I said before the relationship between Pop and Tony has changed. It's no longer Father - Son in Tony's eyes and the Spurs are more dependent on Tony now than ever no matter what anyone thinks. So mature or not mature on Tony's part Pop better figure out a way to undo the mess that this whole Kidd affair has created. Screaming ain't gonna cut because Parker's likely to scream right back at you. And you can't unload TP now for anything nearly close to fair value. There're teams laying in wait to get their hands on Parker. They know there's a strain and their likely to cultivate a relationship.

    Fact is TP was right all along. Spurs didn't need Kidd. They needed a big. Maybe in the end they couldn't get one but that's what they needed. Kidd ed everyone in this play, including his best bud Duncan.

  12. #12
    Marcus Bryant
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    Dump his ass for Brand and sign Arenas. Spurs fans always get emotional about any player wearing a Spurs uni. They'll get over it (ie Daniels).

  13. #13
    smackdaddy11
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    And you can't unload TP now for anything nearly close to fair value.
    Not true. With all of the cap space the Spurs have this is the best time to do it.

  14. #14
    T Park Num 9
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    Sterling will keep Brand.


    All the good FAs are gone.


    We blew this summer big ing time.


    Only way they get something is that they trade for it.



    And many teams prob arnt wiling to trade right now.....


    Spurs are in a tough spot now.............

  15. #15
    Whottt
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    That's funny MB, we weren't emotional about Elton Brand or J O'Neal coming here to start in front of Malik. And he has been a Spur longer than Parker has.

    Face it..the decision to go after Kidd wasn't necessary, it was a bad move, a pipe dream, and it was done in a very heavy handed manner.

    Just about any player in the NBA would react as Tony is...

    And yeah Arenas looks pretty good right now since Tony has been taught by the Spurs that it is just a business.

    Just remember business is about making money and SA is about the worst place in the NBA to do business.

    Ah let's see if we can **** Manu over now..

  16. #16
    Marcus Bryant
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    The Spurs went after the best point guard in the game for one reason alone...Tim Duncan. He does not deserve to play in the prime of his career without the best possible talent available now that DRob has retired. Rose was never a full-time starter.

  17. #17
    picnroll
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    You better hope a S&T offer of Parker for Brand works if you make it. And you better pray if it doesn't work that Parker and his agent never get wind that the offer was made (and these things have a funny way of getting around I'll bet). Because if Parker gets wind that you just tried to dump him again, and to the Clippers, a week in Chernobyl's gonna be more fun than the Spur's locker room.

  18. #18
    50 Cent
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    I have worried about Pop and Tony's relationship for a while now. I think Pop's riding of him in the last few years has been very good for his development, but I think Pop needs to start giving Tony some credit and admitting how important he is to this team. While the NBA is a business, you have to walk a fine line and ensure that you don't destroy team chemistry in the process of seeking out the best possible available talent. Putting 2 starters from a Championship team on the trading block isn't the best way to ensure that player loyalty is going to continue. I hope Pop has some plan to reassure these guys of their importance to the team, because he has without a doubt done some damage letting Kidd use this team like he did.

  19. #19
    Whottt
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    #1. Forget about Brand. He aint coming with Dunleavy coaching the Clips. In fact I expect to hear Elton has accepted the Clips contract offer any day now. No I am not an insider but then again I didn't need one to know we weren't gonna get Kidd and that Tony wasn't gonna like us trying to sign him.

    #2. We can still salvage things with Tony possibly..Pop can always says he wanted the fastest player in the NBA leading Kidd's break.

    I don't know if Tony will buy it, and frankly these comments in this interview are cancerous.

    I don't think it's a bad idea to go for Arenas...he has trade value if nothing else. Dunno if we can get him though..and trying might piss Manu off. He is probably gonna be a starter somewhere else though.

    Dammit I am bummed we didn't use our draft pick on a big..

  20. #20
    picnroll
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    I think at the end of the negotiations the fact that Pop was willing to trade TP to free up a little more cap room to make an offer to Mourning is going to be veeerry hard for Pop to smooth things over with Parker.

    Ultimate irony of the whole courting of Kidd. How about Parker blows up into a superstar and demands as a condition of resigning the firing of Pop.

  21. #21
    Marcus Bryant
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    Um, it's not like that was the only thing Pop wanted to get out of that trade.

  22. #22
    picnroll
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    Maybe not Marcus. What I got from putting things togehter from RC's cooments was the Spurs thought they were falling out of the picture because they didn't know what the salary cap was going to be and didn't know if they'd have $2 or 4 million so couldn't make an offer to Mourning, couldn't look at the records etc.. That Mourning was the key. What I want to know is if Kidd was playing them, which I think he ws, why did he let NJ make that supposed S&T offer of TP and Bowen to SA theat supposedly the Spurs countered? Was that all just press BS?

    What else did they think they would get besides Kidd in the supposed Kidd for TP, Malik offer to NJ?

    Someday they'll have to write a story about this. Maybe Kori can do it.

  23. #23
    o0drpill0o
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    Popovich just needs to sit down with Parker and carefully explain to him the simple truth: it was not about replacing you at all, it was about giving you and Tim the best teammate available to us. You guys were going to be great together. Now you're going to have to be great for us by yourself.

    There is no doubt in my mind that the Spurs are committed to Tony Parker as one of the key pieces of this team. This "just a business" crap does not apply here IMO. It's too bad Popovich seems to have been too busy getting shafted by free agents to take the time to let Tony in on the details of the plan.

    Tony needs to suck it the up and stop being such a pussy about this whole thing. I think his agent has him convinced that Pop was trying to screw him by "severely impacting his market value" or some like that, and that makes me ing mad. But if Tony doesn't get his together by the first day of training camp and start acting like a man and a professional, I say **** him. He can leave if he wants. We would lose an important part of the puzzle, no doubt, but that's just the way it goes some times. This team is for grownups, which is why we didn't go after Payton IMO. But Tony can only pull out the whole "I'm only twenty years old" excuses for so long.

    My money's on the likelihood that the kid will grow up a lot before his contract is up, and that part of that growing up will be learning the meaning of the word "team". I think that lesson is probably going to come for him in next year's western conference finals, unfortunately. Kidd would have been an important part of this squad, but not more important than Tony would have been. I know Parker would have realized that a few games into the season, and that he would have realized the greatness of the plan and how it was going to be exactly what the Spurs needed to stay on top. Now none of us will ever know.

    It's not Tony's fault that Kidd didn't come of course, although it may have had a little bit to do with it. But if Parker holds a grudge about it for the next two years then he can take a damn hike and go play for the Trailblazers in 05.

  24. #24
    Marcus Bryant
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    picnroll, they were looking at getting more than just Mourning. That's all I'm gonna say about that.

  25. #25
    picnroll
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    Marcus fair enough. When does the book come out in paper back. Do we have to wait until deep throat dies?

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