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    say biden wins and there's a blue wave.

    where does the republican party go? do they get more extreme or less? does the party break in half? what will their platform be?

    do democrats, "independents", libertarians all grow in numbers?

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    say biden wins and there's a blue wave.

    where does the republican party go? do they get more extreme or less? does the party break in half? what will their platform be?

    do democrats, "independents", libertarians all grow in numbers?
    trump runs 2024 for sure

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    I predict a softening on immigration. Maybe amnesty on the way as they try to pretend Trump didn't exist.

    Ted Cruz has already admitted if the left stacks the court and makes P.R. and D.C. states, the right never wins another election. If Trump loses they have no leverage will bend on some issues out of necessity.

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    republicans were able to band together during obama because he was black. and were able to band together during 2016 cause hillary was hillary.

    will white america rage against joe biden just as similarly? i'm doubting it.

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    trump runs 2024 for sure
    I can see it now.

    Trump vs Kamala

    "Such a nasty woman!"

    Actually, the establishment (R) will not allow him in the debates, tbh.

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    trump runs 2024 for sure
    Agreed

    Biden and Kopmala will make sure of it

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    I predict a softening on immigration. Maybe amnesty on the way as they try to pretend Trump didn't exist.

    Ted Cruz has already admitted if the left stacks the court and makes P.R. and D.C. states, the right never wins another election. If Trump loses they have no leverage will bend on some issues out of necessity.
    I don't know why Republicans think 52 states makes it impossible to win elections. All they have to do is move enough towards moderation to get Florida, Ohio, and other swing states back. Ted Cruz can only see conservatism through extremist lenses, I guess.

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    If Trump loses he will never run again. The only thing his guy hates more than being President is losing.

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    Trump who gave up a billionaire dream lifestyle to become President hates being President.

    Totally makes sense

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    I predict a softening on immigration. Maybe amnesty on the way as they try to pretend Trump didn't exist.

    Ted Cruz has already admitted if the left stacks the court and makes P.R. and D.C. states, the right never wins another election. If Trump loses they have no leverage will bend on some issues out of necessity.
    The GOP could just admit Guam as a state when they're in power again in that scenario and they get two more Republican senators.

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    絶対領域が大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    I can see it now.

    Trump vs Kamala

    "Such a nasty woman!"

    Actually, the establishment (R) will not allow him in the debates, tbh.
    Yeah they will. Otherwise he'd run third party and that's something that actually could obliterate the GOP.

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    Trump who gave up a billionaire dream lifestyle to become President hates being President.

    Totally makes sense
    It's weird that you don't see how this makes perfect sense exactly the way you worded it.

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    It's weird that you don't see how this makes perfect sense exactly the way you worded it.
    No, it’s actually not.
    Hes that way.

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    Unless Democrats figure out a way to drive turnout in midterm elections the GOP isn’t going anywhere. If the Dems can actually get the turnout they’re getting for this election in midterms then the GOP will have to change.

    I don’t think they’ll pivot on immigration though. There’s a swath of untapped white voters who are anti immigration and Trump just scratched the surface with them in 2016. The research that’s been done on Americans who don’t vote shows there’s a 15-20mm group of people who don’t vote in elections that are by and large populists who are very anti immigration.

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    playbook's already written, they'll do the same thing they did after GWB, find some dem policy to protest and bring them together and pretend like the last president didn't happen

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    It's weird that you don't see how this makes perfect sense exactly the way you worded it.
    I guess if you watched cable news daily, you could come to that conclusion.

    Carry on.

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    I guess if you watched cable news daily, you could come to that conclusion.

    Carry on.
    It's weird that you think that's a good comeback or at all related to what I said.

    As a side note, I haven't had cable for 5 years and haven't watched cable news even longer.

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    Unless Democrats figure out a way to drive turnout in midterm elections the GOP isn’t going anywhere. If the Dems can actually get the turnout they’re getting for this election in midterms then the GOP will have to change.

    I don’t think they’ll pivot on immigration though. There’s a swath of untapped white voters who are anti immigration and Trump just scratched the surface with them in 2016. The research that’s been done on Americans who don’t vote shows there’s a 15-20mm group of people who don’t vote in elections that are by and large populists who are very anti immigration.
    biggest pool of untapped voters is the youth vote, but im not sure theres a way to get them engaged tbh

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    biggest pool of untapped voters is the youth vote, but im not sure theres a way to get them engaged tbh
    Yeah I should have been clear the report I read found that biggest swath of untapped voters is progressiv youth vote but the 2nd biggest is a white anti-immigration group that largely goes unnoticed.

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    Yeah I should have been clear the report I read found that biggest swath of untapped voters is progressiv youth vote but the 2nd biggest is a white anti-immigration group that largely goes unnoticed.
    dont know what more trump could have done to draw the anti immigrant white vote tbh

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    What Republican Party?

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    dont know what more trump could have done to draw the anti immigrant white vote tbh
    These aren’t the vocal anti immigration whites you see on TV. It’s a group that’s older, largely retired or semi-retired, and largely disengaged from politics. When you read about how even after 2016 there were still close to 2 million white people in Pennsylvania who didn’t vote, a lot of them are in this group.

    The analysis that I’m referring to on people who don’t vote was pretty detailed and worth a read
    https://knightfoundation.org/wp-cont...eport_2020.pdf

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    What happens if the opposite happens?

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    What happens if the opposite happens?
    Then you'll be voting for Trumps the next six cycles.

    Just like you want to .

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    What happens if the opposite happens?
    Continued voter suppression increasing the power of the rich and widening the wealth gap while convictionless shills like you go "lol triggered libs."

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