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    Is the "minimum wage" even relevant? The real minimum wage in San Antonio appears to be $14+ based on what entry level positions at HEB, QT, WalMart, Target,Bill Millers, etc. are going for.
    The federal minimum wage for covered nonexempt employees is $7.25 per hour. In Texas, the minimum wage is $7.25.

    https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/minimum-wage/state#tx

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    Is the "minimum wage" even relevant? The real minimum wage in San Antonio appears to be $14+ based on what entry level positions at HEB, QT, WalMart, Target,Bill Millers, etc. are going for.
    Cmon dude. This is so out of touch. There is tons of people still making minimum wage or under $10 an hour.

    and yes wages are higher in big cities. But, they are most definitely paying far less in holes like three rivers

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    Cmon dude. This is so out of touch. There is tons of people still making minimum wage or under $10 an hour.

    and yes wages are higher in big cities. But, they are most definitely paying far less in holes like three rivers
    I guess I'm out of touch. My first "paycheck" job was $1.25 an hour at 15. I'd been mowing yards a lot longer than that. And Yeah, it was "entry level" but the more skills I acquired over time the more people were willing to pay for my services. Its the same everywhere whether you are in SA or Three Rivers.

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    Checking glass door at Valero refinery in three rivers the lowest salary (intern trainee position) was $57,000 a year. They probably drug test though.

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    And seriously, anyone only making $10 an hour in SA must be seriously dysfunctional. There are jobs freaking everywhere paying more than that.

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    I guess I'm out of touch. My first "paycheck" job was $1.25 an hour at 15. I'd been mowing yards a lot longer than that. And Yeah, it was "entry level" but the more skills I acquired over time the more people were willing to pay for my services. Its the same everywhere whether you are in SA or Three Rivers.
    Adjusted for inflation, $1.25/hr when you were fifteen is still significantly higher than the current minimum wage, Mr Bootstraps.

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    I guess I'm out of touch. My first "paycheck" job was $1.25 an hour at 15. I'd been mowing yards a lot longer than that. And Yeah, it was "entry level" but the more skills I acquired over time the more people were willing to pay for my services. Its the same everywhere whether you are in SA or Three Rivers.
    Cool and your first house was $7,500.

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    Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.

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    CC with the "if I could do it" garbage

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    " if a tall white guy like me could do it in Texas in the 70s..."

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    Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.
    And yet still, minimum wage jobs used to at least be a semi-livable wage, and they’re not anymore.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...out-of-poverty

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    " if a tall white guy like me could do it in Texas in the 70s..."
    Amazing how the most spoiled, pampered generation in American history is delusional enough to believe they just bootstrapped it all their lives with no advantages.

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    Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.
    You're talking about this on an individual level instead of a macro level. There aren't enough "make more money" jobs for everyone who currently makes minimum wage to move into. People are entering the workforce at higher rates than people are retiring. Yes, the top performing minimum wage earners will move up but there are always going to be some who won't because there aren't enough higher paying jobs for everyone, especially as automation increases.

    It's not about merit, it's about a baseline level that increases comparable to costs.

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    CC with the "if I could do it" garbage
    Blake with the "I'm a loser and will always be a loser"

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    Pretty much sums up the new GOP:


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    Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.
    Your moving the goalpost through. That’s not the point. The original point you made was “well the real minimum wage is x dollars an hour in SA”. And that just isn’t true. There is plenty of places paying under $10 an hour. As far as your oil refinery job, no . Way to cherry pick that. Not everyone in 3 rivers works at the oil refinery. And that’s to not even get started on the nonsense that is waiter/waitress minimum wage.

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    Point being, minimum wage jobs are designed as entry level jobs. Gain skills, make more money.
    Some are some are not. That still doesn't excuse the disparity in inflation and wage growth over the past 30 years.

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    Blake with the "I'm a loser and will always be a loser"
    Lol for all any of us know, you're typing on a library computer on the Southside getting ready to go back to your HEB cart

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    we need to make an average income graph for spurstalk where 100% of people are over 200k

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    we need to make an average income graph for spurstalk where 100% of people are over 200k
    I'll get my butler's CPA on it

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    Your moving the goalpost through. That’s not the point. The original point you made was “well the real minimum wage is x dollars an hour in SA”. And that just isn’t true. There is plenty of places paying under $10 an hour. As far as your oil refinery job, no . Way to cherry pick that. Not everyone in 3 rivers works at the oil refinery. And that’s to not even get started on the nonsense that is waiter/waitress minimum wage.
    I made several points. No goal post move but the conversation shifted. Please tell me where a legal citizen with a high school education or GED in San Antonio is making $10 an hour.

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    I made several points. No goal post move but the conversation shifted. Please tell me where a legal citizen with a high school education or GED in San Antonio is making $10 an hour.
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    we need to make an average income graph for spurstalk where 100% of people are over 200k
    Annual Income* of Spurstalk members

    Over 200K - 100%

    *In Venezuelan Bolivar (~$0.089)
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    Yeah, I looked it up. You are correct about the ad. Looks like they haven't hired anyone either.

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