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    If you think all Hispanics are going Conservative.
    Where the do you live? Antarctica?
    I predict they will buy even more into the American Dream as their numbers and especially representation increases. At the moment neither party is doing a good enough job of catering to them. You would expect hispanics to be more highlighted in Hollywood than blacks. Conservatives have advantage of Catholicism back in Mexico.

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    reforming the electoral college was once on nixon's agenda. of course, the republican party actually had policies and ideas back then, so maybe not relevant to now..

    for me its not about republicans, its the problem with representative democracy- one, you need good candidates for it to actually qualify as an election and money will always try to buy more representation, two since they are representing you, you need to be able to hold them accountable. And i think those problems have not really been fixed anywhere beyond doing a better job instilling a civic/national pride kind of honor system, but even then corruption manifests. Someone like Frostking lusts after japanese geneous society, and its true, when their executives or politicians get busted in a scandal, they will take the blame in a way that doesnt happen in the west. But the point is that even with that honor system, it doesnt stop them from actually cheating and stealing. so those for me are the roadblocks to a real democracy.

    i think the US actually does a comparatively good job with local propositions going to vote, but the parties and business interests (and their media mouthpieces) corrupt the process

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    there are good simple reforms like ranked voting that would help

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    "Colorado voters have decided to join a growing list of states that will decide a president by popular vote, the latest move in a national chess match over the way the United States elects its presidents.

    Called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, the agreement calls for states to award their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote....."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...llege-n1247159

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    Import the new Blue Wave

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    Import the new Blue Wave
    Frosty must be having to fight them for jobs

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    Frosty must be having to fight them for jobs
    Indian programmers

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    Indian programmers
    You must really suck at it then

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    You must really suck at it then
    The Visa allows companies to hire 2 of them for the price of 1 of us Americans. Big Tech wins again.

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    The Visa allows companies to hire 2 of them for the price of 1 of us Americans. Big Tech wins again.
    Well then you should be pushing even more to make them full fledged American citizens.

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    Well then you should be pushing even more to make them full fledged American citizens.
    Haha


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    Import the new Blue Wave
    Why aren't you in favor of this? Didn't you say the future is Latino?

    Also, Latinos could potentially be a huge voting bloc for the GOP, but they've been massively incompetent over the years in appealing to them due to the GOP's need of them as "the other" to fire up the Redneck segment of their base (i.e. coming for yer jerbs).

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    CIA Times cos God forbid the board cuckold should have original thoughts.

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    They're both fixable, tbh... add more States for #1, then for point #2, it's inevitable that if you keep on ting on your cons uency you can only play with maps for so long.
    sure, but they won't fixed.

    c-u guaranteed total corruption of the political class which now, beholden to, captured by BigDonor class, won't ever overturn c-u

    scotus allowed partisan gerrymandering

    abolishing the EC requires a Cons utional amendment, 2/3 of each chamber, 3/4 of the states, NEVER gonna happen

    America is ed and un able.

    Repugs shat on their cons uency for decades, and they still vote Repug for God, gays, guns, knitters, abortion

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    CIA Times cos God forbid the board cuckold should have original thoughts.
    Says Derptube

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    Imma moar sophistuhmucated cos I can list CIA talking points

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    Dense derp is beyond salvaging, sorry to say.

    Being an incel basement dweller has not helped him but he has invested so much in the trump narrative that he has no life outside of that.

    All you can do is pity the worthless bas as his life will not get better and you can bet it will not turn out well.



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    Imma moar sophistuhmucated cos I can list CIA talking points

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    Texas is about 1 year away from a Hispanic majority.
    Its a done deal.
    The youngsters in reproductive range rule now. Old white people dying and younger whites not having as many kids per household.
    I think the trend continues.
    Hispanics are not a completely united voting block. A good portion of them are religious and they tend to lean Republican like Evangelicals. The Democrat shift in Texas is visible but it isn't going blue for another decade at least.

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    1. The electoral college


    "On March 18, at a CNN town hall in Jackson, Miss., Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts called for shutting down the Electoral College. “I believe we need a cons utional amendment that protects the right to vote for every American citizen and to make sure that vote gets counted,” she said.

    Republicans responded:

    “The desire to abolish the Electoral College is driven by the idea Democrats want rural America to go away politically,” Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina said on Twitter. His colleague Marco Rubio of Florida posted a similar note, calling the Electoral College a “work of genius” that “requires candidates for president to earn votes from various parts of country. And it makes sure interests of less populated areas aren’t ignored at the expense of densely populated areas.”

    President Trump weighed in as well: “With the Popular Vote, you go to just the large States — the Cities would end up running the Country. Smaller States & the entire Midwest would end up losing all power — & we can’t let that happen. I used to like the idea of the Popular Vote, but now realize the Electoral College is far better for the U.S.A.”...

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/28/l...l-college.html
    With most of the economic power residing in cities... seems odd that we should give so much political power to people outside them.

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    "Colorado voters have decided to join a growing list of states that will decide a president by popular vote, the latest move in a national chess match over the way the United States elects its presidents.

    Called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, the agreement calls for states to award their electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote....."

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...llege-n1247159
    Why in the world would any one (or state) give up their say [for the say of the rest of the country which might/might not be like/represent them]? That just doesn't make sense to me.

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    I don't like the way California is run. Should I, as a Floridian, give up my say/vote for what they want? No way.

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    With most of the economic power residing in cities... seems odd that we should give so much political power to people outside them.
    odd? It's the ed up, archaic, anti-democratic Cons ution: prefers land (state) over population for the Senate, disenfranchises citizens with the EC.

    Neither can be changed, and both have been weaponized by oligarchy/Repugs to maintain minority rule.

    while the EC and checks and balances were attempts, FFs assumed "good faith" of which the oligarchy and the political class have none.

    democracy depends on the good faith and consent of the governed, but bad faith rules and the consent of the governed is ignored.
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