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Do you ever interact with older people or others with pre-existing conditions who could be more vulnerable?You actually are if you rushing to take a vaccine for an illness that kills .05% of peeps
I get the flu vaccine and I have never had the flu. (Virtue signal; I believe in a PUBLIC response)You actually are if you rushing to take a vaccine for an illness that kills .05% of peeps
Why?
How many times does this need to be pounded into the brain of a selfish idiot...
Do you ever interact with older people or others with pre-existing conditions who could be more vulnerable?You actually are if you rushing to take a vaccine for an illness that kills .05% of peeps
Does it/they work?
Are it/they safe? (BigPharma has paid many $10Bs for people maimed or killed by their unsafe )
So you dont get the flu vaccine because big pharma?
Nope. Polio, hepa is, TB are serious illnesses that can destroy most peeps. Not to mention those vaccines took years (or decades) to developThats pretty much how all vaccines work but that amounts to millions of people dead and long lasting debilitating post complications for an even bigger number. You only got one life. You don't roll the dice on something you don't need too.
Not really. Ill be wearing a mask and testing for the next few months. And so will my old relatives.
The development of a vaccine for any disease is theoretically going to come much faster NOW.
If it works actually requires people trying it in very large numbers. You wont do that because... you might turn purple.
You work with all these %s and then fail to answer how likely is the vaccine itself going to hurt me and then deem it, very likely.
You still have the antivaccer immediate Autism in your head.
Then we dont even need a vaccine.Not really. Ill be wearing a mask and testing for the next few months. And so will my old relatives.
Case closed.
You are so disingenuous, the perfect Trumper.
?You'd developing countries with no funds.
I will take it as soon as possible, granted it's properly approved.
I do not want to get this . And I'm in decent shape, non obese.
Huh? So US would do fine with a polio or TB outbreak?
With enough antivaccers like you it could be a disaster.Huh? So US would do fine with a polio or TB outbreak?
Which makes no sense why you say that. 1st world countries still rely on the same polio, tb vaccines.No I said you comparing a young and developing countries with limited funding vs the whole world with advance technologies and unlimited funds.
Not really theres a long list of botched vaccines.I'm saying all vaccines are good.
April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/23/covi...wF_zzwHnE7iPAc
Doctors say CDC should warn people the side effects from Covid vaccine shots won’t be ‘a walk in the park’
PUBLISHED MON, NOV 23 20204:19 PM ESTUPDATED 42 MIN AGO
KEY POINTS
- The CDC must be transparent about the side effects people may experience after getting their first shot of a coronavirus vaccine, doctors urged during a meeting Monday with CDC advisors.
- Dr. Sandra Fryhofer said that both Pfizer’s and Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccines require two doses and she worries whether her patients will come back for a second dose because of potentially unpleasant side effects after the first shot.
- Both companies acknowledged that their vaccines could induce side effects that are similar to symptoms associated with mild Covid-19, such as muscle pain, chills and headache.
A volunteer is injected with a vaccine as he participates in a coronavirus disease (COVID-19) vaccination study at the Research Centers of America, in Hollywood, Florida, September 24, 2020.
Marco Bello | Reuters
Public health officials and drugmakers must be transparent about the side effects people may experience after getting their first shot of a coronavirusvaccine, doctors urged during a meeting Monday with CDC advisors as states prepare to distribute doses as early as next month.
Dr. Sandra Fryhofer of the American Medical Association noted that both Pfizer’s and Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccines require two doses at varying intervals. As a practicing physician, she said she worries whether her patients will come back for a second dose because of the potentially unpleasant side effects they may experience after the first shot.
“We really need to make patients aware that this is not going to be a walk in the park,” Fryhofer said during a virtual meeting with the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, or ACIP, an outside group of medical experts that advise the CDC. She is also a liaison to the committee. “They are going to know they had a vaccine. They are probably not going to feel wonderful. But they’ve got to come back for that second dose.”
Participants in Moderna and Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine trials told CNBC in September that they were experiencing high fever, body aches, bad headaches, daylong exhaustion and other symptoms after receiving the shots. While the symptoms were uncomfortable, and at times intense, the participants said they often went away after a day, sometimes sooner, and that it was better than getting Covid-19.
Both companies acknowledged that their vaccines could induce side effects that are similar to symptoms associated with mild Covid-19, such as muscle pain, chills and headache.
One North Carolina woman in the Moderna study who is in her 50s said she didn’t experience a fever but suffered a bad migraine that left her drained for a day and unable to focus. She said she woke up the next day feeling better after taking Excedrin but added that Moderna may need to tell people to take a day off after a second dose.
“If this proves to work, people are going to have to toughen up,” she said. “The first dose is no big deal. And then the second dose will definitely put you down for the day for sure. ... You will need to take a day off after the second dose.”
During the meeting on Monday, Patsy Stinchfield, a Children’s Minnesota nurse prac ioner, said officials and drugmakers could try talking about the side effects in a more positive way. She said they could use language such as “response” instead of “adverse reaction.”
“These are immune responses,” said Stinchfield, a past voting member of the committee. “And so if you feel something after vaccination, you should expect to feel that. When you do, it’s normal to have some arm soreness or fatigue, some body aches and maybe even a fever. It sounds like in some of these trials, maybe even having to stay home from work.”
“You hear some people in the trials that are disappointed that they didn’t have any of those things, feeling they must have gotten a placebo,” she added.
The committee meeting comes three days after Pfizer and its partner BioNTech applied for an emergency use authorization from the Food and Drug Administration for their coronavirus vaccine.
The FDA process is expected to take a few weeks, and an advisory committee meeting to review the vaccine has been scheduled for early December. Some Americans could get their first dose of the vaccine in about a month.
ACIP is expected to call an emergency meeting to make specific recommendations on distribution once the FDA authorizes a vaccine.
Federal agencies are already sending vaccination plans around to staff. Five agencies have started telling employees they could receive Pfizer’s or Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine in as little as eight weeks, a person with firsthand knowledge of those plans told CNBC on Friday.
Last edited by Darth_Pelican; 11-24-2020 at 11:20 AM.
Saw that.
Its funny the volunteers said side effects were no fun but its better than getting covid. How do they know? Most infected are asymptomatic
DisagreeThats probably less dangerous than the diseases still.
hater flip flops on vaccines and COVID safety after being completely wrong about Trump.
Never flip flopped. You most likely did.
I always said vacvines are good but a hyper warp speed one needs to be watched carefully.
Chump lies again
Lol chump folds
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wgntv.c...-approval/amp/
In case you want to hear experts discuss
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...vid-19-vaccine
seasonal flu shots, already taken my 100Ms, are "safe", but only 50% effective, fighting last season's strains, not this season's.
covid vaccine has been taken by only a few thousand, "self-reported" as effective, impossible to know long term effects in the short term.
I probably won't be able to get a covid vaccine shot for many months, and after 100Ks have, so that should demonstrate effectiveness and safety "in the wild"
BigPharma has maimed and killed many 100Ks, probably more, paid $10Bs.
ALL of their has been "FDA-approved", FDA being just another govt agency operating under "regulatory capture".
You raise some salient points but I will be among the first to take due to my work and have FDA experience (but not in vaccines). They do have a lot of hard working scientists and doctors trying to evaluate the information. The advisory panel will be interesting if you get a chance to watch.
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