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    A team needs a mobile rim protector.
    Thats what he does at a high level.

    If they drafted defense, they bolstered it right here.

    His offensive role is screen / off. rebs and easy finishes.

    Can't be mad with that.

    Also, what's with that "masterplan" regarding next years cap space.
    Signing DD for as much as we can?

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    It'd be absolutely ing hilarious if they can't trade any one of Mills/Gay/Derozan/LMA for a single asset. Jesus christ, this FO.

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    I mean, I don't think SA is scared of being knocked out in the first round. Seems like a good outcome for a team that still has all of its picks and tons of cap space next summer.
    I'm leaning towards them just missing the playoffs if everything remains the same. I'd rather they just make a move to at least form a compe ive, interesting team then let come what may. The team seems rudderless and the product is just plain awful, imho.

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    That is happening with the Spurs not signing any vets. They have no choice but to play the young guys a lot.
    Yeah, they're obviously not all-in on winning right now and have been actively opening spots for youngsters while not bringing on vets with long-term deals. But they are also not doing what's best for the team's future.

    So it's difficult to understand what they're trying to do when they're not taking either of the two most obvious routes. Hopefully it makes sense at some point down the line but for now it looks like the Spurs are rudderlessly drifting between the two strategies.

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    if PATFO is thinking no forbes and no marco is good enough

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    It'd be absolutely ing hilarious if they can't trade any one of Mills/Gay/Derozan/LMA for a single asset. Jesus christ, this FO.
    BOO ING HOO CRY

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    Now, if the Spurs can trade Aldridge for some value/ any value/ young player with upside/ picks. I will consider this offseason as a success (with the addition of defense minded Vassell & Tre Jones to replace Forbes & Belinelli).

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    Good deal, I do think people underestimate Poetl’s worth on the market. If LMA can be moved eventually the deal will look even better. I also think the contract can be traded to a contender in a year or two if need be, assuming the Spurs muster the courage to make a trade.

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    Fair price. Do you guys see what others are getting? Morris got 16 a year, C Wood (whoever that is) got 14, Davis got 16, Galo got (who I like but is not worth) 20 mil a year.

    I’d put his 9 mil a year right on track with market.

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    I'm leaning towards them just missing the playoffs if everything remains the same. I'd rather they just make a move to at least form a compe ive, interesting team then let come what may. The team seems rudderless and the product is just plain awful, imho.
    Team should be a lot more interesting just for the fact that Forms and Beli have been jettisoned. That's 50-60 mins opened up for the youngins.

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    Yeah, they're obviously not all-in on winning right now and have been actively opening spots for youngsters while not bringing on vets with long-term deals. But they are also not doing what's best for the team's future.

    So it's difficult to understand what they're trying to do when they're not taking either of the two most obvious routes. Hopefully it makes sense at some point down the line but for now it looks like the Spurs are rudderlessly drifting between the two strategies.
    It honestly sounds like handling Pop with kid-gloves. Like a retirement home for him. And I'm not a Pop hater.

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    Team should be a lot more interesting just for the fact that Forms and Beli have been jettisoned. That's 50-60 mins opened up for the youngins.
    Something tells me watching DDR/LMA/Gay continue to throw up a ton of fadeaway bricks every night is still going to be boring as .

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    Here are the numbers I have..

    DeMar DeRozan: $27,739,975
    LaMarcus Aldridge: $24,000,000
    Rudy Gay: $14,500,000
    Dejounte Murray: $14,286,000
    Patrick Mills: $13,535,714
    Jakob Poeltl: $8,650,000
    DeMarre Carroll: $6,167,887
    Trey Lyles: $5,500,000
    Devin Vassell: $4,033,440
    Derrick White: $3,516,284
    Lonnie Walker IV: $2,892,000
    Luka Samanic: $2,824,320
    Keldon Johnson: $2,048,040
    Drew Eubanks: $1,620,564
    Tre Jones: $898,310
    Quinndary Weatherspoon: Two-Way
    Total: $132,212,534
    Luxury Tax Threshold: $132,627,000


    So, that's a cool $400,000 below the threshold if the salaries are accurate
    I haven't seen anything on Poeltl's deal, but 27M/3.24 is $8.33 Million. That gives the Spurs another $300k. That'd leave the team $200k short of another minimum salary.

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    Something tells me watching DDR/LMA/Gay continue to throw up a ton of fadeaway bricks every night is still going to be boring as .
    didn't say it was going to be that much better

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    Run it back SZN!!

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    Lma needs to get dealt for this deal to be worh it for sa

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    After the way he got his ass beat in the bubble the spurs reward him? Sounds about par for the last 5 years of free agent signings

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    Chinook, a Question : You have both "Tre Young" (who I presume is Tre Jones) and Weatherspoon at $963 005 each. Are they really that expensive? Weatherspoon is probably still on a 2 way and Tre Jones might end up on one - how much space would that give us?
    They aren't that expensive, especially if Weatherspoon stays on a two-way deal. But the capulator won't let you set contracts lower than what it determines is the rookie min. It still operates as if the cap projections are good.

    It's a rough guess, but it does give one an idea of where the salaries are.

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    Lyles will be the starting PF unless something changes.
    That's a disaster in the West.

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    9 mil per is def a nice raise for poodle power

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    I haven't seen anything on Poeltl's deal, but 27M/3.24 is $8.33 Million. That gives the Spurs another $300k. That'd leave the team $200k short of another minimum salary.
    Two-way players can play up to 50 games this season, right? Considering there are only 72 games, just adding another two-way guy will be plenty. A roster with 14 players and a pair of two-wayers is easily deep enough.

    The best use of the excess money would probably be to hold it into the regular season in case there's a youngster who emerges in the G League who you can add with a multi-year deal at the minimum.

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    Lol, "overpay." Look at the ing market.

    We got our new whipping boy, at least. I can't wait to avoid this forum again because of all the insufferable chodes.
    I thought that was DeJounte?

    Haven't you seen all the endless posts about how the 29th pick, who is a solid contributor, but is miscast as a lead guard is trash, "overpaid" and needs to be traded?

    If/when DeJounte leaves then Lonnie or some other unfortunate soul will come along to be derided about his game/social media posts/"character" by SpursTalk.

    Anyway Poeltl got more than I'd have liked but apparently this is the off-season to start handing out $8 - $10 million to backup bigmen.

    Needs to show more on the offensive end to really live up to the contract & heightened expectations. And the Spurs could use a much, much better running mate than Lyles, Gay and/or (maybe) Samanic in the frontcourt.

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    This forum is re ed. This is barely overpaying. A little high but more than reasonable. Hopefully this is a precursor to LA leaving.

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    Here are the numbers I have..

    DeMar DeRozan: $27,739,975
    LaMarcus Aldridge: $24,000,000
    Rudy Gay: $14,500,000
    Dejounte Murray: $14,286,000
    Patrick Mills: $13,535,714
    Jakob Poeltl: $8,650,000
    DeMarre Carroll: $6,167,887
    Trey Lyles: $5,500,000
    Devin Vassell: $4,033,440
    Derrick White: $3,516,284
    Lonnie Walker IV: $2,892,000
    Luka Samanic: $2,824,320
    Keldon Johnson: $2,048,040
    Drew Eubanks: $1,620,564
    Tre Jones: $898,310
    Quinndary Weatherspoon: Two-Way
    Total: $132,212,534
    Luxury Tax Threshold: $132,627,000


    So, that's a cool $400,000 below the threshold if the salaries are accurate
    Carroll taking the last roster spot and not playing again

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    If this was literally any other franchise, I'd say all signs/moves since the restart point to LMA getting moved.

    It just makes so much sense until he's back in a Spurs uniform in a month and the Spurs are paying 11mil for his backups

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