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    From what I gather from the TWiV folks, that's probably right. Less transmission but still transmission. They expect the most likely scenario is that vaccinated people will still get a nasal infection and be able to transmit. Apparently the vaccine will not affect the mucosal immune system.
    There are topical treatments that sound promising, what do you hear about them?

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    There are topical treatments that sound promising, what do you hear about them?
    I just saw the ivermectin w/ seaweed nasal spray prophylactic "study". It didn't look like a real scientific study so I don't have an opinion on it.

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    I just saw the ivermectin w/ seaweed nasal spray prophylactic "study". It didn't look like a real scientific study so I don't have an opinion on it.
    There are preprints on ivermectin and Povidone iodine in the Vaccines and Treatments thread.

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    Another e protein mutation

    New coronavirus strain spreading in UK has key mutations, scientists say
    https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSKBN28P158

    10% of all new UK infections.
    So how many World Wars on the hater scale of 'we ed' is that?

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    There are preprints on ivermectin and Povidone iodine in the Vaccines and Treatments thread.
    I'm not sold on ivermectin because the rational just isn't there. They claim because in vitro it inhibits viral replication but that was at doses far greater than safe doses, and then they say it's has anti-inflammatory properties. Well hydroxychloroquine does both of those things very well at normal safe doses and wasn't a game changer so why would a dewormer work?

    I suppose regular use of a nasal/oral disinfectant like Povidone iodine might help but it stains. A bleach solution would be better imo.

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    So how many World Wars on the hater scale of 'we ed' is that?
    We dont know

    I thinks its almost a fact that this mutation is more infectious. Maybe 8x more.

    But we dont know if its more lethal or if it would resist vaccine. Although it is a mutation relating to the e which is what the vacvines are based on

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    So how many World Wars on the hater scale of 'we ed' is that?
    WWLXXII

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    lmao Everytime Darrin has to respond more than a handful of times he inevitably s out some nonsense that proves how much of an out-of-touch re he is.
    DarrinS

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    Darrin's gonna blame the darks....
    PROTESTS LEAD TO INCREASE WHICH IS BAD BUT IN WHITE SWEDEN HERD IMMUNITY IS GOOD

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    That's not true. It most likely will not prevent transmission. The vaccines are unlikely to stop mucosal infection and transmission of SARS-CoV-2. They're just going to stop Covid-19.
    Thats not true.
    Most vaccines do both.
    There is more evidence on the side it will do both.

    The people who produce high viral loads do so because their immune system cant suppress the cells manufacturing the virus (the vaccine, if it works should shut this down just like in other viruses). Just because someone test positive for "the virus", it may very likely mean the loads are extraordinarily low or even people actually do not produce viral product able to infect (ie its pieces of the virus the test is picking up).
    *I should some test most likely test + for other coronaviruses of which there are many.
    We will see. Imo this is gonna work (but I am an optimist by nature, not a WWCVII type).
    Last edited by pgardn; 12-15-2020 at 09:21 PM.

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    Another e protein mutation

    New coronavirus strain spreading in UK has key mutations, scientists say
    https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSKBN28P158

    10% of all new UK infections.
    This does NOT mean the vaccines we have right now will not work.

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    We dont know

    I thinks its almost a fact that this mutation is more infectious. Maybe 8x more.

    But we dont know if its more lethal or if it would resist vaccine. Although it is a mutation relating to the e which is what the vacvines are based on
    The vaccine we have now will most likely recognizing a part of the e that is consistent throughout.
    There are many reasons for this.

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    Keep in mind Swedish people are probably in better health generally speaking. In America, a virus like this is extra deadly because of how many people here are already more often severely overweight and with poor diets. That can't be helpful.

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    Keep in mind Swedish people are probably in better health generally speaking. In America, a virus like this is extra deadly because of how many people here are already more often severely overweight and with poor diets. That can't be helpful.
    Definitely

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    In November

    Look now

    https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/


    Daily deaths dropping significantly
    What about the rate of permanent heart damage?

    What about the rate of permanent brain damage?

    This virus does a bit more than just kill. For every fatality you have more people that have suffered some serious long-term health consequences.

    You cool with that too?

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    In November

    Look now

    https://www.worldometers.info/corona...ountry/sweden/


    Daily deaths dropping significantly
    Tends to happen when lockdowns are imposed.

    We already know this.

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    400 more deaths. Approx 13 deaths a day. Old sick not young healthy. This is not the spanish flu.

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    Tends to happen when lockdowns are imposed.

    We already know this.
    You are not smart.

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    Foldren wrong about Sweden

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    400 more deaths. Approx 13 deaths a day. Old sick not young healthy. This is not the spanish flu.
    The end

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    Your stupidity will never end.

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    Your stupidity will never end.
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    BwahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahahhaHhHahahhahahaha hahhahahaha

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    foldren wrong about Sweden just like everything else.

    He can't discuss anything, he only lies and melts down.

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    this Tegnell guy

    What a ing miserable clown


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