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    As boomers begin to die off, even the CDC has predicted a pretty sharp increase in the death rate through 2035. You cannot simply consider the death rate as a flat, unchanging figure and then add deaths to it and associate all of those above the previous mark as unreported COVID deaths. Well you can, some here have, but many of you are clueless.
    https://www.census.gov/library/stori...rs-deaths.html

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    Not true according to the death certificates.
    Directly or indirectly but still attributed to covid. Whether it's the Healthcare system swamped or people scared to get checked up or the actual covid itself. All by not being able to get covid under control to begin with. This ing administration has been pushing for herd immunity from the get go and what you see is the results you ing moron.

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    I never said Covid deaths you ing moron.

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    DMC trying to make excuses for his Trump's miserable failure.

    ThEy WUz gOINg 2 dIE nyWayZ!

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    Some people don't understand the English language very well.

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    Directly or indirectly but still attributed to covid. Whether it's the Healthcare system swamped or people scared to get checked up or the actual covid itself. All by not being able to get covid under control to begin with. This ing administration has been pushing for herd immunity from the get go and what you see is the results you ing moron.
    So you moved the goalpost. Get your together before you make another RG level post.

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    I never said Covid deaths you ing moron.
    If it's wholly attributed to COVID, there were no other underlying causes for death.

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    This disease has been a disaster for our country because people get very sick and sometimes die. This many extra deaths worldwide and people seeking medical aid worldwide is most likely not a statistical anomaly.

    but you think it is. statistically you are trying to roll with the losing hand.

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    As boomers begin to die off, even the CDC has predicted a pretty sharp increase in the death rate through 2035.
    When was the last time the US saw such a large e in deaths, year over year?

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    When was the last time the US saw such a large e in deaths, year over year?
    The guy is an idiot.

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    But but but meh retes.

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    When was the last time the US saw such a large e in deaths, year over year?
    Speak to your boy RG about varying death rates. I don't care to chase your red herring.

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    The guy is an idiot.
    But but but meh retes.
    dabom 2.0

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    only DMC could try to call the topic of the thread a red herring.

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    Speak to your boy RG about varying death rates. I don't care to chase your red herring.
    1918-1919, in case you were wondering.

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    You forget its likely that many ppl died of other maladies due to being afraid to go to dr or hospital. Or waiting until too late. Also im sure suicides were up

    I agree most of these deaths are due to pandemic but not strictly due to covid disease

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    Being American should be considered a comorbidity given our broken federal government and broken healthcare system.

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    Love them sine curve thighs.

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    The fact our federal government classifies pizza as a vegetable (thanks Elena Klobuchar for that one) is related to this^ tbh

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    As boomers begin to die off, even the CDC has predicted a pretty sharp increase in the death rate through 2035. You cannot simply consider the death rate as a flat, unchanging figure and then add deaths to it and associate all of those above the previous mark as unreported COVID deaths. Well you can, some here have, but many of you are clueless.
    https://www.census.gov/library/stori...rs-deaths.html
    That's just it. The assumption was that the death rate for 2020 was going to rise anyway. An increase in mortality was already factored in.

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    https://knoema.com/atlas/United-Stat...ica/Death-rate

    We were due for about a 1.19% rise in the death rate before all this happened. Death rates are pretty stable, year to year, pandemics aside.
    Last edited by RandomGuy; 02-15-2021 at 01:27 PM. Reason: links and source material

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    There's a difference in how the reporting schemes are working between non-novel diseases and COVID-19. Many states have openly stated they are reporting these cases if the person tested positive for COVID-19 . Dying with something and dying from something are two different things.

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    3309321-358330=2950991

    2950991/2876947= 1.0257

    2.57% increase more than twice what was predicted. Odds are pretty good that a fair part of that increase was due to unconfirmed/diagnosed COVID 19.

    Especially given that flu itself has been almost non-existent this year.



    In the third week of 2021, clinical laboratories nationwide tested 23,549 specimens for influenza. Of those, just 0.3 percent (65 tests) turned up positive — a number that is, to put it mildly, absolutely wild.

    “Normally, this time of year, we’d be running 20 to 30 percent positive,” said Lynnette Brammer, the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Domestic Influenza Surveillance team.
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...re-it-started/

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    There's a difference in how the reporting schemes are working between non-novel diseases and COVID-19. Many states have openly stated they are reporting these cases if the person tested positive for COVID-19 . Dying with something and dying from something are two different things.
    Many states, like Texas, have been underreporting by only counting absolutely 100% confirmed cases in their numbers, and not trying to estimate an unconfirmed number. Also means that the COVID number, if not accounting for that factor, are almost certainly underreported for that reason.

    Makes it harder to do state-by-state comparisons.

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