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    US life expectancy is expected to drop 2-3 years.

    Care to revise your honest brokering of the conversation about 2020 excess mortality, DMC?


    This year is on track to be the deadliest in U.S. history with a total of more than 3 million deaths expected by the end of December, due in large part to the coronavirus pandemic, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

    The Associated Press reported Tuesday that preliminary numbers suggest the U.S. will have at least 3.2 million deaths by the end of 2020, about 400,000 more than in 2019.

    The U.S. has recorded more than 319,000 coronavirus-related deaths as of Tuesday, with more than 18 million total infections, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

    While the AP noted that deaths normally rise by about 20,000 to 50,000 each year due to aging and a continuously growing population, the 15 percent increase in deaths from 2019 is the largest single-year increase since 1918, when hundreds of thousands of U.S. soldiers and Americans died from a flu pandemic.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/53...-in-us-history

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    Earlier this month, COVID-19 surpassed heart disease as the leading killer in the U.S. And a report last week in the Journal of the American Medical Association concluded that coronavirus likely has killed more people in the U.S. than heart disease, cancer, chronic lower-respiratory disease, transportation accidents or suicide since Nov. 1.
    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...uwy-story.html

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    It's true.

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    Show the dataset. Covid only. No comorbidities

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    Show the dataset. Covid only. No comorbidities
    your foldpost

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    Show the dataset. Covid only. No comorbidities
    So you don't have data... just gossip. Lame

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    So you don't have data... just gossip. Lame
    Sure I have data. You have foldpost.

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    So you don't have data... just gossip. Lame
    Provide the link


    Or you fold

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    Provide the link


    Or you fold
    you never provided a link ever

    Why demand one now?

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    Provide the link


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    Deaths in 2020 will differ in a statistically significantly manner from deaths in 2019.

    why?

    The % will exceed 15, the most since 1918. What happened (was happening) in 1918?
    Well war I AND a virus. So what’s up?
    Last edited by pgardn; 12-23-2020 at 08:44 AM.

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    lol links to data are embedded in the OP

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    lol links to data are embedded in the OP
    He'll just move his foldpost to motorcycle brisket deaths.

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    Excess deaths, comparative, rendered by the Financial Times's data guru


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    Stupid mother er.

    Comorbidities are already there in the normal data.

    Death rates don't vary from year to year.

    it's all Covid, you stupid, selfish .

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    Stupid mother er.

    Comorbidities are already there in the normal data.

    Death rates don't vary from year to year.

    it's all Covid, you stupid, selfish .



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    [I don't understand the difference between one year and 70]



    70 =/= 1

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    Death rates don't vary from year to year.

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    Death rates always vary by season and year. The issue is significant with coronavirus because it disproportionately affects older people and those with existing medical conditions such as heart disease. People with coronavirus and so-called comorbidities might have died soon anyway.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/mortali...ct-11587558540


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    Death rates—and thus the relative ranking of countries in relation to others—do vary from year to year.

    https://sites.nationalacademies.org/...rom-all-causes



    RG, ST's own Cliff Claven.

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    as long as DMC doesn't have to talk about the actual deaths.

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    - Makes sense that death rates vary year to year. It would be surprising and illogical if they did not. Much like a bad flu year, a COVID-19 year should e death rates for certain comorbid illnesses. IIRC, the numbers do bear that out.
    - Excess deaths are likely a better indicator, preferably longer than a year over year comparison.
    - Even if anybody argues that people ‘might’ have died soon due to a given comorbidity, the fact that they have died removes any speculation about the deadly influence of COVID-19.

    Now please carry on with the bickering...

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    Do people know what rates are? It's nothing tangible. 400k deaths over the previous years is actual dead people. That is wholly attributed to COVID. Anyone saying otherwise is a ing moron.

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    Being American should be considered a comorbidity given our broken federal government and broken healthcare system.

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    Do people know what rates are? It's nothing tangible. 400k deaths over the previous years is actual dead people. That is wholly attributed to COVID. Anyone saying otherwise is a ing moron.
    Not true according to the death certificates.

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