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    Looks like there was an organized plot to overthrow, DMC. Bad leadership and cold feet seems to have doomed it to failure.

    Four more Oath Keepers associates have been indicted and three were arrested in Florida in recent days in the Jan. 6 breach of the U.S. Capitol, bringing the number of co-defendants charged in the largest conspiracy case from that day to 16, court records show."

    These new indictments against members of the Oath Keepers provide more evidence that the defendants had planned for an overthrow of the United States government. They hoped for enough violence to allow Donald Trump to declare a state of emergency and Marshall Law to retain the Office of President. WaPo reports that one defendant "began discussing plans to keep Trump in the White House by force as early as last Nov. 9."

    Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes ("Person One" in the indictments - for the win!) is a former aide to former Congressman Ron Paul, father of Senator Rand Paul. So one person in the group can lay claim to knowledge of the layout of House offices, at least. Messages from Rhodes prior to the MAGA insurrection riot show first-degree foreknowledge of the motives and actions on January 6.
    “We’re going to defend the president, the duly elected president, and we call on him to do what needs to be done to save our country. Because if you don’t, guys, you’re going to be in a bloody, bloody civil war and a bloody — you can call it an insurrection or you can call it a war or fight.”

    “I’m willing to sacrifice myself for that,” Rhodes allegedly also told followers. “Let the fight start there. That will give President Trump what he needs, frankly. . . . We want him to declare an insurrection, and to call us up as the militia.”
    https://crooksandliars.com/2021/05/new-oath-keeper-indictments-show-planning/amp

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    I doubt Trump planned anything specific, but Don Jr. and and Sen. Tuberville May have had a clue in advance.


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    It was the opposite of an overthrow attempt. It was an attempt to keep the current admin in power. Yeah you're going to dismiss the distinction even though you keep trying to prove through assertion.

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    Asshole sicko Michael Flynn x general says America needs to be overthrown like Myanmar

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    It was the opposite of an overthrow attempt. It was an attempt to keep the current admin in power. Yeah you're going to dismiss the distinction even though you keep trying to prove through assertion.
    preventing the duly elected president from taking power or attempting to is a coup — an overthrow.

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    Man, the petty parsing. Just determined to minimize it.

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    19 oath keepers so far but "person one" Stuart Rhodes Stayed outside the building while his gang got suckered into violating the capital

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    preventing the duly elected president from taking power or attempting to is a coup — an overthrow.
    ALBANY, N.Y. (NEWS10)-Violent protests in the nation’s Capitol Wednesday, January 6 prompted politicians and government officials to words like sedition, treason, coup, insurrection, and terrorist. Some called for use of the 25th Amendment.

    But what is sedition and how does it pertain to United States laws? NEWS10 conducted research and spoke with two local college professors to find out.

    Coup
    A coup (coup d’etat) by definition means to overthrow the government, which is illegal in the United States, said Professor of political science and women’s studies at Rockefeller College of Public Affairs and Policy, Julie Novkov.

    The word has no legal bearing but is used by political scientists, said Director, Government Law Center and Assistant Professor at Albany Law School, Ava Ayers.

    Sedition (Seditious Conspiracy)
    Seditious conspiracy is an attempt to put down, destroy by force, or overthrow the government conspired (planned) by two or more people. Seditious conspiracy also includes attempting to hinder, delay, or prevent the execution of any laws, explains Novkov.

    Insurrection (rebellion)
    Rebellion or insurrection is the incitement of people to rebel or resist against the authority of the U.S. A person convicted of either would serve jail time and be unable to hold political office, Novkov said.

    Riot
    Most of what took place at the Capitol can be classified as rioting, said Novkov. “More broadly the kind of activity involving breaking into the Capitol Building and damaging property of the Capitol Building, taking things from the Capitol falls pretty squarely under the legal definition of riot,” she said.

    “A riot is a type of civil disorder that results in a public disturbance against authority, property, or people,” according to Findlaw.com.

    25th Amendment vs. impeachment
    The 25th Amendment states; If a sitting president becomes incapacitated, resigns, is removed from office or dies, the vice president would become president. Whereas impeachment is the removal of a president, according to Cornell Law School.

    The important distinction here is that a president who is impeached, would be banned from holding any political office in the future, said Ayers.

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    Man, the petty parsing. Just determined to minimize it.
    Sure, you want to keep laying on the hyperbole unchecked.

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    Sure, you want to keep laying on the hyperbole unchecked.
    coup, rebellion and riot all seem to fit, insurrection seems a stretch, that’s why I don’t use it.

    why does overthrow seem like hyperbole to you?

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    Seditious conspiracy would seem to be the charges against the oath keepers, would that not be a plot to overthrow?

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    coup, rebellion and riot all seem to fit, insurrection seems a stretch, that’s why I don’t use it.

    why does overthrow seem like hyperbole to you?
    ...because you're parroting the stooges at CNN, gd it, Winester.

    You got your pound of flesh in there when you shot that unarmed woman to death after she broke & entered. You're gonna send the horned fellow up for 20-25 years for putting his feet on Pelosi's desk and stealing her White Out.

    Mother er Biden gets thousands of wets a room at the Ramada Inn and a tab at the Taco Cabana for their B & E.

    That's in' (why)!

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    Seditious conspiracy would seem to be the charges against the oath keepers, would that not be a plot to overthrow?
    See my post immediately above, fart face.

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    Point out the hyperbole using the definitions provided if you can. You haven’t yet.

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    Crawl, mother er. Crawl!!!

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    preventing the duly elected president from taking power or attempting to is a coup — an overthrow.
    it’s also a per se attack on democracy inasmuch as it aims to nullify an election.

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    Crawl, mother er. Crawl!!!

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    it’s also a per se attack on democracy inasmuch as it aims to nullify an election.
    Back, steal it back, Winester after you all stole it first.

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    The former National Security Adviser of the United States of America:

    Trump's guy.

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    Come ta Pappy.

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    Michael Flynn says USA have a Myanmar uprising

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