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    Bono deserves a mention

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    I'd put Paul McCartney over him. I love Stevie Wonder, no doubt, especially his early works, but you need to clarify your terms. Paul as part of the Beatles had a much larger following, more sales, more hits. George Strait has a ton of number 1 hits. There are plenty living musicians like Hetfield and Elton John who have a dog in the race. Steve Perry, Madonna, Phil Collins, Smokey Robinson... Plenty of living talent... Springsteen.. But the loss of Prince removes one of the greatest.
    When you get to the McCartney, Dylan, Springsteen, Wonder plane, it's hard to diminish anything. At that point I think it's really down to "wow" factor, which is what I get from Stevie more than the others (having nothing to do with his blindness, just how exciting and original he was.)

    I guess if I had to pick one tangible thing in Stevie's favor over McCartney, I'd credit Stevie Wonder for the fact that when he took singular creative control (versus recording what Motown wrote for him, backed by studio musicians), he went on the best creative run of his career. When Paul McCartney took control (went solo, didn't have Lennon and Harrison adding input), his output got worse. On the other hand, there are dozens of absolute classic Beatles songs where Paul was clearly the alpha. So that's why they're 1A and 1B for me.

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    When you get to the McCartney, Dylan, Springsteen, Wonder plane, it's hard to diminish anything. At that point I think it's really down to "wow" factor, which is what I get from Stevie more than the others (having nothing to do with his blindness, just how exciting and original he was.)

    I guess if I had to pick one tangible thing in Stevie's favor over McCartney, I'd credit Stevie Wonder for the fact that when he took singular creative control (versus recording what Motown wrote for him, backed by studio musicians), he went on the best creative run of his career. When Paul McCartney took control (went solo, didn't have Lennon and Harrison adding input), his output got worse.
    Well his Wings weren't the Beatles,

    but let's not act like Paul & Linda's music weren't very good because they were far better than what John & Yoko were putting out in the post Beatles 70s.

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    Well his Wings weren't the Beatles,

    but let's not act like Paul & Linda's music weren't very good because they were far better than what John & Yoko were putting out in the post Beatles 70s.
    Paul/Wings was definitely better than John solo or John/Yoko but that's not saying much.

    I do like a lot of Paul's 70's stuff (Ram, Band on the Run, McCartney II) but I'm not convinced any of us would have ever heard it if it didn't have his name attached to it.

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    Paul/Wings was definitely better than John solo or John/Yoko but that's not saying much.

    I do like a lot of Paul's 70's stuff (Ram, Band on the Run, McCartney II) but I'm not convinced any of us would have ever heard it if it didn't have his name attached to it.
    I liked a lot of his music that didn't make the pop charts like the "Uncle Albert and Admiral Halsey" song

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    I liked a lot of his music that didn't make the pop charts like the "Uncle Albert and Admiral Halsey" song
    That one actually hit #1 on Billboard.

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    That one actually hit #1 on Billboard.
    Really? I thought that one was a little *out there*. It was definitely unconventional / one of a kind.

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    Really? I thought that one was a little *out there*. It was definitely unconventional / one of a kind.
    The power of the McCartney brand.

    Also the "hands across the water" part is a real earworm.

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    The power of the McCartney brand.

    Also the "hands across the water" part is a real earworm.
    My favorite was the whole nonchalant/ acid trippy/ pothead/ lazyass younger generation part:

    "Admiral Halsey notified me
    He had to have a birth or he couldn't get to sea
    I had another look, and I had a cup of tea
    And a butter pie...!
    Linda: 'A buttah pie?'
    (* Paul groans* ...the butter wouldn't melt so I put it in the pie"


    So goes to show you that the Millennial generation weren't the first carefree, nonchalant, "lazy", non-hardworking generation in modern civilization. Those were baby boomers at the age roughly of today's millennials, insubordinate of their depressionary and prior aged superiors. Now the roles are reversed. Interesting how age changes people's minds and how they are wired, tbh. The older you get, the more authoritarian and more you favor hard work over foodstamps.

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    Then there's Nickelback of course.

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    Then there's Nickelback of course.


    Worst band of the era. Worse than foo fighters and my chemical romance, who were both also awful.

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    Adam Levine deserves a mention?

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    Adam Levine deserves a mention?
    No.

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    yes, Robert Plant is still alive.

    And the Scorpions too
    Did you say Zeppelin and Scorpions in the same breath?

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    Did you say Zeppelin and Scorpions in the same breath?
    Lol if you don't think the Scorpions are in' awesome. I don't know what to tell ya.

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    Lol if you don't think the Scorpions are in' awesome. I don't know what to tell ya.
    Their in the 70s was great, you probably like the crap from the 80s tbh

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    Their in the 70s was great, you probably like the crap from the 80s tbh
    I actually prefer their ballads from the late 70s, early 80s over their more hard glam-metal hits later on. From about 2003-2005 "Lady Starlight" was my favorite song in the world. It was technically 1980 but was in the style of some of their late 70s works... like born to touch your feelings.

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    Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys

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    RIP Chester

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    Before opening the thread, first name that came to mind was Stevie. His song catalogue is ridiculous. His reach of influence through genres is near ominous. He had innate talent to create mainstream honey melodies and still push the envelope with different musical sounds. I believe he was songwriting hits for other people as well. He’d be my pick as well.

    If Prince were still alive, I’d lean towards him over Stevie. But Stevie isn’t far behind.

    Two names I’d throw in the mix, but neither is quite the vocalist as guys like Stevie or McCartney. As far as just pure musical talent, whether you like his music or not, John Mayer is an incredible guitarist. I don’t even really listen to his stuff much at all. But just pure, natural talent, he’s exceptional. And the other name is Pharrell. Also not notable as a vocalist, he’s more of the modern musician who is as much a deejay producer type as he is a musician. But he is in fact a multi-instrumentalist who does more than make beats. I do think he’s a musical genius. But perhaps more of a Quincy Jones type musical genius rather than a Stevie Wonder one.

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    Billy Joel deserves a mention ITT.

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    Good call but probably too short of a run. Real big shame that he lost his mind during the Smile sessions.

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    No. Not at all. Want to try and explain?

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    Worst band of the era. Worse than foo fighters and my chemical romance, who were both also awful.
    Almost every member of that group is richer than almost every name mentioned in this thread.

    Do you really wonder why everyone s on you, you got?

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