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Pop should really take notice. Lonnie was great without Demar and need to get Lonnie stay aggressive. And Vassell, the kid has shown composure and great great length defense. Murray/Vassell defense on backcourt would be crazy!
All Aldridge needed to do was put a body on Wiseman. He made awful reads, letting himself get distracted by the guard attacking the basket, only to see the ball get passed to Wiseman for him to get butt ed from behind.
Pop should really take notice. Lonnie was great without Demar and need to get Lonnie stay aggressive. And Vassell, the kid has shown composure and great great length defense. Murray/Vassell defense on backcourt would be crazy!
Exactly. I don't know why he's helping when he can't even block the upcoming layup. Just boxout his guy, and let Vassell and DJ catch his guy.
Knew this would be a loss. Warriors are accustomed to our style of play, and their experience playing that ball movement game led by Dray and Curry was just too much for our guys to handle. They're too sharp.
Yeah he made the same mistakes on defense that he makes ever game. Cause that it the type of player he is. To point out what LMA did wrong in this game is to point out what he does wrong in like 80% of the games he plays...pretty much every game that is not against portland or whatever team steven adams plays for
Pop has Lonnie starting, there’s no greater vote of confidence! If he blows it that’s on him!! Got to grow the up and be a player.
Lonnie's got Luka's beta personality. There, I said it.
The thing is, Spurs also know how Warriors play. They practiced so hard in the playoffs to switch on Curry and have the bigs stand with hands raised high.
Spurs are just terrible at protecting the 3's this year. We've seen it with against Lakers with open 3's, against Jazz open 3's.
Meh I don't think 3s were the issue tonight than it was the easy looks they got at the rim when someone penetrated. On other nights, sure. I felt I saw a lot of those 3s by the Warriors were contested.
It wasn't even a guard most of the time, but Draymond lobbing to him off the short roll when LaMarcus would over commit to his drives.
As if Draymond is even an offensive threat anymore. He is the weak link and should been ignored or had his man (Keldon or DeMar) roaming/helping on Curry/Wiseman.
The defensive strategy was complete , tonight. Hopefully Pop adjusts next time and doesn't show Draymond nearly as much respect (even if he's making shots).
Any athletic big could have feasted tonight against the Spurs. I don't think anything what Wiseman did tonight was special.
Aldridge's consistently low minutes per game and benching gives me hope. Hoping he fades into obscurity.
You gotta explain what this means. I agree that Lonnie doesn't have that "dog" in him like DeJounte or Keldon, but neither did Derrick prior to the bubble last season. When he - all of a sudden - got over his bouts of passivity and played like he knew he is a NBA - level player.
Clearly, Lonnie is still finding himself and being 3rd, 4th or 5th on the pecking order along with his wavering confidence and bouts of passivity make it frustrating to watch. We still gotta give him time, though, because if he totally clicks the tools are there for him to be a 18 - 20 PPG scorer.
His defense being suspect at times and wavering in quality from game to game is a lot more concerning, IMO. He needs to get better at that end or it'll cost him time or minutes at the end of games.
It's a frustrating night that's making me say some I don't mean. I know Lonnie can be a good scorer. I just don't understand how you can back out of the moment when you've tasted it like he has. Saying it's because of DeMar is BS also, because he's acknowledged when he's played passive and "how he wants to change that" phrase he conveniently says whenever he has a good game. He's just prone to be the "nice guy" again every 3 games or so. I'm not sure it's just another White situation, since White's bball IQ compensates for a lot of his deficiencies as an aggressor. Even when White is playing passive, he's playing good.
Yeah basically DWhite & Vassell have amazing basketball instincts/IQ
DJ and Keldon have a compe ive fire in them
Lonnie if he isn’t scoring just looks lost imo I still think he could be special but he’s gotta be more consistent
Someone's GOT to use this pic of Vassell and photoshop it... C'mon
True, agreed on all points but (even though he was a late bloomer) Derrick came in a 4 - year college player and more NBA ready than Lonnie. Lonnie wasn't considered a "project" in the truest sense of the word (like DeJounte and Luka), but he had a lot of holes in his game that led to him falling to us (as well as the knee issue).
And I do think the excuses will have to go away eventually, but he's playing in the starting lineup with two ball - dominant veterans and two other youngsters that also need touches.
He just needs to learn when to pick his spots better and to remain in attack mode/aggressive throughout games. Deferring and passing up good looks for low - percentage or contested shots isn't helping anyone.
And his issues with finishing inside are starting to creep up, again. Not sure how he can improve there but he needs to become a much, much better finisher. It is disappointing how many points he leaves on the court missing from close range.
I'm aware of who he plays with
But you can't tell me it's their fault when Lonnie gets passed the ball, dribbles three times, meets LITTLE resistance, proceeds to pick up the ball and passes it to someone else. I can count at least three instances he did that tonight. No one is telling you to pass the ball back. You earned clout two games ago by scoring 30 pts. Size your ing man up and attack the basket. It's all Keldon does right now and he's playing with the same players Lonnie is. He's been terrible at it too but he keeps doing it anyway. There's nothing stopping Lonnie but Lonnie. I honestly think it's because he's not confident in his ball handling.
Ur only saying that because we don't see Luka at all...and when we do it's for short stints...remember when y'all used to say the same thing about White until he got consistent playing time when ppl got injured and y'all saw he was actually good? We have no idea how good Luka can be because he doesn't play...so all we can do is judge him based on the 2 times a year he gets in the game for 5 minutes
Watched the game on delay due to work, going to give my thoughts FWIW.
- Cool Hand Luke (Lonnie)
Is the injured left hand/thumb causing Lonnie issues? We better hope so as the kid has had a tough 3 game stretch, looks lost out there, second guessing himself, passive etc. I’m genuinely concerned.
- Vertical Spacing/ Dunkers spot
Are the Spurs the worst team in this modern era of defending elite athletic bigs at the rim? I mean seriously, give up a mid range two, a contested floater or 3 - you just can’t continually get abused on that play.
- DDR slumping since hiatus. 3 games of the 4 DDR has played since returning from visiting his ill father have been the worst stretch of ball he’s played this year. Wishing him well through an undeniably tough period.
On to the next one.
I don't know, bro. There is so much inconsistency.
I wouldn't be so agitated with the loss if some combo of Keldon/Lonnie/Vassell had balled out, but we waste a ton of time and shots not getting them opportunities and right now that's who I tune in for. If they are not going to ball out, I need to be able to draft someone who will.
It's funny, but I didn't mention DJ because his 18-20 and some boards and some assists are old hat to me now, which is good. One less thing to about lol
Overall, we absolutely do not need to be a non-contending playoff team. We need to either get more out of these young guys so that we are actually formidable, or actually lose enough to get better that way. Middling is a no-no.
In any case, Vassals and Keldon need to shoot more. They can't subject me to Demarr/Patty/LA ball AND lose on top of that boredom. It ain't right.
Run plays for Keldon and Vassell or tank.
When you look at the fluctuations in the data over time, that's clearly not a linear trend. It goes up first, then down. It's more curvilinear.
At this point Poeltl should start shooting 3s. It can't get worse
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